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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Yeshua the Messiah Did Not Pre-Exist!Did Yeshua the Messiah divest himelf of his previous identity, lose all his former knowledge, power and standing with YEHOVAH God — only to establish this all again after his resurrection? What for? What did it accomplish? Is such a belief logical? A careful consideration of scripture will reveal that the…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,12:02):D  :laugh:  :D   You remind me of Kangaroo Jack yelling “ANATHEMA” at me because I wouldn't agree that Jesus is the God Almighty that he is the Son of.   :D  :laugh:  :D Naturally, I don't suppose you'd care to show me where I lied, would you?  You've called me a liar after two different posts I made.  Show me which part of each…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,11:41)For Frank – the writings of mikeboll64, who has put this in HIS OWN words, knows the scriptures that back up his own words, and is willing and able to DEFEND what he writes:1.  John was not the light, but came to testify about the light who was coming into the world.  The Word was the light of men who came i…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Yahshua is not the only one “coming” on judgment day. Yahweh will come as well, but not in the physical sense that Yahshua will.Isa 40:10 – “Behold, the Sovereign Yahweh will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.”The phrase “his arm” is a reference to Messiah (Jn 12:38), but…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Yahshua the Messiah is Not Almighty YahwehModern day Christians believe that Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed in some form or another. Some say he was Melchizedek, some say he was “the captain of the host of Yahweh” (Josh.5:14), some say he was the archangel Michael, others say he was the “angel of Yahweh”. Perhaps the most erroneous view is that…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Did Our Savior Pre-exist?For thousands of years, from the days of ancient Babylon, men have believed in a triune god. This concept of a triad of deities is a universally recognized doctrine. Whether speaking of Hindooism, Taoism, Buddhism or Christianity, all believe in a trinity. The Christian doctrine of the Holy Trinity states that all three…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,11:27)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,18:03)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,10:41)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,17:38)Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh” because he is the spokesman of His and our FatherAnd do you agree that “the Word” from John 1 is also actually “the Word of God”?  Or do…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    12 Proofs the Messiah DID NOT Pre-Exist!The plan of YEHOVAH God has been overlooked by the people in this world because they have accepted the PAGAN DOCTRINE of a pre-existent savior who did it all for them — which has been taught to them by the SERVANTS OF SATAN! This pagan doctrine was contrived for the purpose of BLINDING people's minds to the…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,10:41)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,17:38)Yahshua's name/title is called “The Word of Yahweh” because he is the spokesman of His and our FatherAnd do you agree that “the Word” from John 1 is also actually “the Word of God”?  Or do you believe John 1 refers to someone else's word?Mike,I am no longer going to…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2011,09:08)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 01 2011,08:42)T8,Again nowhere in Scripture does it EVER SAY, AND I QUOTE!: “”Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” Scripture simply does not SAY this and since it does not SAY this it must certainly be a perversion (twisting or wresting) of what Scripture…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,09:13)Frank,Do you believe the title “the Word of God” in Rev 19:13 is applied to Jesus?Mike,Why is it that you feel that I need to repeat myself over to you again and again? If you have not heard what I have said the first time, how do you expect me to believe that you will hear me the second time?Quote Frank,Do…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2011,07:59)All things were made by/through him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.Him = autos {ow-tos'} pronoun,  Definition:himself, herself, themselves, itselfhe, she, itSo as you can see it has a smaller chance on the outset as meaning “it” and a greater chance of meaning “him, he, etc”.So who is right…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2011,08:29)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,20:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,12:47)Frank,What is your direct answer to question #1?How about question #2?Mike,I have previously given answers to both of these questions in my previous posts which you have conveniently chose to ignore. I am also quite aware that…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 30 2011,17:28)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 30 2011,09:56)t8,Nowhere in Scripture does it ever teach “Jesus is the Word of God who later came in the flesh for our sakes.” This is nothing but a foolish, false, deceptive, and demonic doctrine of mere men and a twisting of Father Yahweh's prophetic inspired word.Frank the very thing you…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,12:47)Frank,What is your direct answer to question #1?How about question #2?Mike,I have previously given answers to both of these questions in my previous posts which you have conveniently chose to ignore. I am also quite aware that others here who believe as I do have also answered both of these questions which…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,12:03)John 1 29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, “Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ 1.  Frank, is it clear to you, based on the word “Jesus” in verse 29, th…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:33)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:48)Mike,I believe that Father Yahweh's word was with Him and that His word had power, might and strength. This is the initial Hebrew meaning of the word that has been erroneously translated as “God” or “god”.Frank,I don't think “erroneously translated” is a fair claim,…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:40)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,18:31)No Greek “kudos” to you Pierre! You are easily shot down in your foolish reasoning! You will need a better education to deal with me!Says the fool who can't even address most of our posts!Frank, what happened when you read John 1:30?  What about when you read 1:29 to…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:43)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,18:38)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:26)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Nov. 29 2011,17:30)I never said that I believed “God was with God”! What foolishness!That's right Frank,It is complete foolishness.  But that is exactly what YOUR preferred translation of John 1:1 says – “In…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 30 2011,11:36)Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 29 2011,17:50)paid attention that it does not say WORDS  it say  THE WORD Jn 1;1 ,so if he was talking about his own words it would be plurialGreat point, Pierre!  :)It says “THE WORD”, not “words”.  It is a title for God's main spokesman, Jesus.Mike,You are clearly uneducated as Pie…[Read more]

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