Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 13 2011,08:10)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2011,07:43)frankQuote Now Mike is trying to baffle you with the “glory” word! It is really quite simple! Father Yahweh says that He will not give HIS esteem (“glory”) to another. The esteem (“glory”) that Father Yahweh gave to Yahshua is the esteem that he is His only begotten…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2011,08:25)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 13 2011,15:10)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2011,07:43)frankQuote Now Mike is trying to baffle you with the “glory” word! It is really quite simple! Father Yahweh says that He will not give HIS esteem (“glory”) to another. The esteem (“glory”) that Father Yahweh gave to Yahshua is…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2011,07:43)frankQuote Now Mike is trying to baffle you with the “glory” word! It is really quite simple! Father Yahweh says that He will not give HIS esteem (“glory”) to another. The esteem (“glory”) that Father Yahweh gave to Yahshua is the esteem that he is His only begotten son, not that he is “God”.(glory =…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 13 2011,07:43)frankQuote Now Mike is trying to baffle you with the “glory” word! It is really quite simple! Father Yahweh says that He will not give HIS esteem (“glory”) to another. The esteem (“glory”) that Father Yahweh gave to Yahshua is the esteem that he is His only begotten son, not that he is “God”.(glory =…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 13 2011,07:00)Not only does scripture teach that Jesus was with the Father before the world began, but so does the Book of Enoch.In addition, the second century fathers also believed this.But the fact that the bible teaches this is enough.To teach this has nothing to do with being hell bent.Try heaven bent.t8,As you know I do not…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2011,02:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 12 2011,08:58)You and your word are one and the same thing, as far as Glory goes concerning GOD GOD said he gives (HIS) GLORY to (NO) MAN, and I believe Jesus was a MAN>Bingo!Gene, WHOSE glory do YOU have?A. Gene has the glory of Gene.B. Gene has the glory of someone begotten by…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 13 2011,01:58)Mike………..Have not idea what you are trying to say, You and your word are one and the same thing, as far as Glory goes concerning GOD GOD said he gives (HIS) GLORY to (NO) MAN, and I believe Jesus was a MAN> Mike your problem is you not understanding what SPIRIT REALLY IS. SPIRIT is (INTELLECT) (…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2011,02:04)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 11 2011,16:56)The word translated as “God” in John 1:1 are in reference to Father YahwehThat's impossible, Frank. Because ONE of the words translated as “God” was said to be WITH the other word translated as “God”.Frank, are you willing to claim that God Almighty can be WITH God…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,11:06)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 12 2011,10:19)t8,The sword is one of the representive spiritual divises (powerful weapons for protection in fighting – armour) that are used to fight off the wiles (schemes, strategies, deceits) of the devil (Ephesians 6:11). Clearly the sword represents Father Yahweh's inspired word.I…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 12 2011,10:19)Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,07:16)Edj.Too much water has gone under the bridge for me to read it all, since our last communication.You say that the Word is the Holy Spirit.So I want to ask you what you think the sword of the Spirit is.I think the sword is the word, but you say the spirit is the word.So what is…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Dec. 12 2011,07:16)Edj.Too much water has gone under the bridge for me to read it all, since our last communication.You say that the Word is the Holy Spirit.So I want to ask you what you think the sword of the Spirit is.I think the sword is the word, but you say the spirit is the word.So what is the sword then?t8,The sword is one of…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 10 2011,15:00)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,20:56)Mike,Yahchanan most certainly would have a reason to say “… and the word was with Yahweh …” And just what was that reason, Frank?Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,20:56)but since you say things that Scripture does not say, I most certainly do not care to seriously…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 10 2011,12:46)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,14:45)Mike,Would not Father Yahweh's word literally being separated from Him render Him speechless?Well, there ya go then. If the the Father's word is ALWAYS with the Father, like YOUR head is ALWAYS with you, then John would have no reason to say, “and the Word was WITH…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 10 2011,12:46)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,14:45)Mike,Would not Father Yahweh's word literally being separated from Him render Him speechless?Well, there ya go then. If the the Father's word is ALWAYS with the Father, like YOUR head is ALWAYS with you, then John would have no reason to say, “and the Word was WITH…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
To ALL,Following is an excerpt from:Jesus Did Not Pre-ExistIn The Beginning Was The Word (John 1)John's Gospel commences with this statement, and goes on to state that this word was with God and was God, and made all things (vv. 1-4). And because the title, Word of God, is applied to the Lord Jesus in Revelation 19:13, it is claimed that these…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 10 2011,07:32)Frank,Is the Father's word EVER apart from Him? Is His word EVER separated from Him? Also, I'll be expecting to see you post the scripture I twisted, and how I “twisted” it. Please put your money where your mouth is.Mike,Would not Father Yahweh's word literally being separated from Him render Him sp…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 10 2011,06:01)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Dec. 09 2011,12:50)Webmaster's Comment: Father Yahweh's word is just that, Father Yahweh's word. Father Yahweh's word is not a separate being apart from Himself.If the Father's word cannot possibly be APART FROM the Father, then it would be pretty senseless of John to specify that t…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
WHO IS THE WORD? (John 1:1) In John 1:1 the writer is very plain in telling us who the 'word' was. He says the word was God. Now we must find out who God is and we will then know who the word is. Let's see who John says God is. Let's go to v.18 of this same chapter. John tells us that God is the Father, not Jesus the only begotten son.…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 3 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 01 2011,13:03)frankQuote John D. Keyserthis is a men just like you and I,Quote Yeshua the Messiah Did Not Pre-Exist!Did Yeshua the Messiah divest himelf of his previous identity, lose all his former knowledge, power and standing with YEHOVAH God — only to establish this all again after his resurrection? What for? What did…[Read more]
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