In Christology, the conception that the Christ is the Logos (Greek: Λόγος for “word”, “discourse” or “reason”) has been important in establishing the doctrine of the divinity of Jesus Christ and his position as God the Son in the Trinity as set forth in the Chalcedonian Creed.SOURCEWHO IS THE WORD?John Chapter OneELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN…[Read more]

Christianity has a paganistic triune “God” that are worship! One of this so-called “Holy Trinity” they refer to as being 'The Word of “God”'.Trinity sminity! WHO IS THE WORD?John Chapter OneELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN ONE?Exodus 32By Voy Wilks3/9/98The Pre-existencePhilippians 2:5-11By Voy Wilks1/29/92Did Yahshua Create Or Pre-exist His…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,10:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,17:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:17)……….perhaps it is time you check your glasses.Strange that you mention that! I have been noticing lately that my eyes are getting worse.Well, there ya go.  mikebulls'64,Note that I also said “No worry though on my part…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:17)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,15:38)Ed J,I have always found it amusing how mikeballs64 argues with others and I in accordance with the Trinitarian concept (theory) of a LITERAL pre-existent Messiah and in turn wonders why I see him a second-hand Trinitarian that pushes such a concept (theory) that is…[Read more]

Ed J,BTW, I agree with you that the set apart (“Holy, Sanctified”) Spirit is of Father Yahweh and in turn is Yahweh, since Yahweh is Spirit and the Supreme source of True Spirit of righteousness. Mike is clearly against what Scripture teaches concerning this clear and obvious truth! WHO IS THE WORD?John Chapter OneELOHIM: ONE, OR MORE THAN…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 05 2012,09:17)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 04 2012,15:38)Ed J,I have always found it amusing how mikeballs64 argues with others and I in accordance with the Trinitarian concept (theory) of a LITERAL pre-existent Messiah and in turn wonders why I see him a second-hand Trinitarian that pushes such a concept (theory) that is…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 02 2012,12:47)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 02 2012,10:55)Mike,How many “YEARS” and for how many more “YEARS” are you going to argue with Ed J simply for the sake of arguing? Certainly you have become blue in the face at some point in time in these “YEARS”!  …Hi Frank,Mike changes the wording in an attempt to make truth into a…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03 2012,13:50)Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,13:21)fHOW MANY TIMES DID YOU PASTE THAT COMMENT OF YOUR ,?Pieeear,Once! Here it is again! Count it! You might also want to read it and pay special attention to the Scriptural references in context with Scripture as a whole this time! Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 03 2012,13:21)fHOW MANY TIMES DID YOU PASTE THAT COMMENT OF YOUR ,?Pieeear,Once! Here it is again! Count it! You might also want to read it and pay special attention to the Scriptural references in context with Scripture as a whole this time! Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03 2012,12:29)Biblical pre-existenceWe fully realize…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Sep. 03 2012,12:29)Biblical pre-existenceWe fully realize that questioning the pre-existence of the “person” Yeshua places us considerably outside the mainstream. However, as previously mentioned, when we are dealing with a God that has the ability to “… call things that are not as though they are” — we must be careful not…[Read more]

Biblical pre-existenceWe fully realize that questioning the pre-existence of the “person” Yeshua places us considerably outside the mainstream. However, as previously mentioned, when we are dealing with a God that has the ability to “… call things that are not as though they are” — we must be careful not to project literal meaning to things…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 02 2012,08:46)Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 01 2012,14:03)Hi Mike,The Holy Spirit IS the spirit of God Most High.Kudos, Ed!  This is what MANY people have been trying to tell you for YEARS on this site.  Worshipping Jesus actually started two different threads in an effort to TEACH you what you finally seem to accept.So why did you b…[Read more]

The Theology of John 1The best place to start as we examine the theology of pre-existence is with the gospel according to John. No other historian of the Messiah alludes to the theme of “pre-existence” nearly to the extent that John does. Consequently, much of the theology existing today has been inspired by John's gospel. Not only is the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2012,11:28)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 29 2012,20:14)Hi Mike,It appears that way to you, because you keep trying to make God a person – which of course he is not – God is spirit.Ed, How does the fact I, along with 70% of Americans, think that God is a person change the fact that the following is YOUR understanding of John 1?John…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,13:53)FI going to ask you only one question ,   if you would read the scriptures all of the books ,not the rejected ones and you stach away all previous concept,doctrine,and wath not of men,so that's your mind is clear of any out side influence,And now reading the bible without adding or subtract any thing ,WHAT D…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:39)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 30 2012,17:36)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,09:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 29 2012,13:19)Hi Frank,It is wolf in sheep's clothing, not a sheep in wolf's clothing. God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Yes, I do realize that! Can you imagine a lamb taking…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 30 2012,11:39)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 30 2012,17:36)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,09:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 29 2012,13:19)Hi Frank,It is wolf in sheep's clothing, not a sheep in wolf's clothing. God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Yes, I do realize that! Can you imagine a lamb taking…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 30 2012,10:36)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,09:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 29 2012,13:19)Hi Frank,It is wolf in sheep's clothing, not a sheep in wolf's clothing. God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Yes, I do realize that! Can you imagine a lamb taking after a wolf? Poor Pierre!   Ed J,And…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 30 2012,09:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Aug. 29 2012,13:19)Hi Frank,It is wolf in sheep's clothing, not a sheep in wolf's clothing. God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Yes, I do realize that! Can you imagine a lamb taking after a wolf? Poor Pierre!

The following is an excerpt from – The Messiah's Pre-Existence — Fact Or Fable?” Hope of Israel Ministries BIBLE Correspondence Course Lesson 40:(Source link at end of excerpt)'5. Those who try to deceive you will more than likely use Daniel 3:25 to “prove” that the son of God was pre-existent. COMMENT: The first thing you should realize is the…[Read more]