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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Nick,To my recollection, when I had a discussion with you here in this forum long ago, you were in disagreement with what it is that I believe, but now it seems that you are in agreement with me for the most part. Have you changed you view since I was here long ago? As I remember, in my last discussion with you long ago you were pointing out the…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 13 2012,11:00)Hi FFY,”When Yahweh created all things, He did it because the lamb slain before the foundation of the world “Compare other bibles and the verses rev 13.8 and rev 17.8This version above wrongly interpreted ascribes the death of the lamb to the time, but it should relate to the writing of the names in the…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 11 2012,15:08)Mike………..Why did Jesus say “WHEN THE “SON OF MAN” RETURNS WILL HE FIND FAITH ON THE EARTH”, IF HE WAS NO LONGER A SON OF MAN .  There is more scripture also that deal with him as son of man returning. If you want i can look them up.peace and…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 12 2012,07:54)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,07:44)Hi mB, At least three times scripture tells us he was a man./ EG acts 2.22-23Nick,Yes, this is quite true! Even Yahshua himself proclaimed to be a man (Yahchanan 8:40).Yahshua also frequently used the expression “son of man” in reference to himself as a human being…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Who is the Creator?A verse of Scripture that is often used by people to teach about the Sacred Name is Prov.30:4, “Who has ascended up into heaven, or descended? Who has gathered the wind in His fists? Who has bound the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is His name, and what is His son's name, if thou can…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    To ALL,Many base their belief on the erroneous Trinitarian concept (“Delusion”) that Yahshua had a pre-existence as an actual being in the beginning with his and our Father Yahweh and was a creator or a co-creator with Him in the beginning by the mere words 'by' and 'through' which are translations of the Greek words 'dia', 'en' and 'eis'. They do…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 10 2012,07:44)Hi mB, At least three times scripture tells us he was a man./ EG acts 2.22-23Nick,Yes, this is quite true! Even Yahshua himself proclaimed to be a man (Yahchanan 8:40).

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 09 2012,08:19)Interesting statement from the guy who ran away from the debate.  ???Mike, I see you as a loser also! :D

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:59)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 09 2012,07:55)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:48)Hi Frank,So you cannot defend you erroneous position then, correct?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,You are off topic again! The topic here is “Preexistence (Part 2)”. Now go wait as long as you want for my…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:48)Hi Frank,So you cannot defend you erroneous position then, correct?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,You are off topic again! The topic here is “Preexistence (Part 2)”. Now go wait as long as you want for my response in the thread that you previously designated in link. Have fun…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 09 2012,07:39)Hi Frank,I'm waiting for your response here.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Keep waiting! :D

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Nick Hassan,Don't be fooled by the opposition! Scripture nowhere SAYS “Jesus was existing in the form of God BEFORE he came in the flesh.”

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Nick Hassan,Don't be fooled by the opposition! When it says that Yahshua … “existed in the form of Yahweh …” this is not in reference to his pre-existing his birth in the beginning with his and our Father Yahweh as an actual being, but is in reference to his existing here on Earth (or “in the world”), since this was written well after Yahshua…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,06:26)Hi f4,Scripture says several times that Jesus is a man. I believe that.His powers were given to him at the Jordan that God would be glorified.We should do that.Nick Hassan,I would wholeheartedly agree with you on this point also! :)

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 09 2012,05:50)Hi Georg, God sent his son Jesus Christ into the world. Likewise the Son sent his brothers.Nick Hassan,I wholeheartedly believe that Father Yahweh sent His son into the world in the same manner that Yahshua sent his brothers into the world.As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,13:31)Hi F4, The book never says he was a BEING before birth.Nick Hassan,Do you believe that Yahshua pre-existed in any form (eg. an “angel” or a “god”) in the beginning with his and our Father Yahweh? In other words, Do you believe “The Book” ever says he was an “angel” or a “god” before birth?

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,13:20)Hi F4, Jesus Christ spoke the words of God given him by God's Spirit.Nick Hassan,I wholeheartedly agree with what you have just said, but the agenda of others here is to prove that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as “The Word” as separate being apart from his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning. Do you…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 08 2012,13:00)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,12:44)Hi F4, Yes the Spirit of Christ was also with the Israelites in the desert.Nick Hassan,So, you do agree that Father Yahweh's word was in Yahshua. It seemed that others here were trying to tell Gene that Father Yahweh''s word was not in Yahshua and falsely accusing him…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,12:44)Hi F4, Yes the Spirit of Christ was also with the Israelites in the desert.Nick Hassan,So, you do agree that Father Yahweh's word was in Yahshua. It seemed that others here were trying to tell Gene that Father Yahweh''s word was not in Yahshua and falsely accusing him of adding words to the text.I would…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 1 month ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 08 2012,09:44)Hi F4, God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.Nick Hassan,Was not Father Yahweh's word also in His son Yahshua just as Yahshua's word that he spoke can be in us?

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