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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 28 2012,08:49)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,11:36)t8,It does not say “he pre-existed”. I believe when it says that “he existed” it is speaking of his existence here on earth and not that he pre-existed in the beginning with his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning as a “God”Frank, before Jesus existed in the flesh, he…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 28 2012,08:43)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,11:36)t8,It does not say “he pre-existed”. I believe when it says that “he existed” it is speaking of his existence here on earth and not that he pre-existed in the beginning with his and our Father Yahweh in the beginning as a “God”Frank, I am not saying that he preexisted, I don't…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 28 2012,08:41)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,15:36)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 28 2012,08:22)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,09:36)To ALL,If you believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being, what type of being do you believe he pre-existed his birth as?He existed in the form of God. This is what we are…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 28 2012,08:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,15:29)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,08:04)Hi Frank, How important is this?Nick,Well, it is important in that Mike and t8 has asserted this in their previous post in comparing what is said in Revelation and the so-called “Book of Yahchanan ” and like the critical scholars…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 28 2012,08:22)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,09:36)To ALL,If you believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being, what type of being do you believe he pre-existed his birth as?He existed in the form of God. This is what we are told.Philippians 2:6who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,08:04)Hi Frank, How important is this?Nick,Well, it is important in that Mike and t8 has asserted this in their previous post in comparing what is said in Revelation and the so-called “Book of Yahchanan ” and like the critical scholars in the excerpt I had previously posted, I also have my doubt that the Apostle…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,07:43)Hi Frank, I have no reason to doubt. Have you?Nick,Just to let it be known, there are doubts among scholars as can be seen in the following excerpt:Until the 19th century, the authorship of the Gospel of John had universally been attributed to the Apostle John. However, critical scholars since then have had…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,07:43)Hi Frank, I have no reason to doubt. Have you?Nick, Well, can you Scripturally prove to me that Yahchanan who authored the Book of Revelation is the one who later authored the so-called “Book of Yahchanan “?

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,07:22)Hi Frank,Should we have doubts about all authors?Jas 1Nick,I am simply trying to figure out who the author is of the so-called “Book of Yahchanan ” and if this same Yahchanan is the same Yahchanan who was the author of the Book of Revelation.

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Marty and Nick,So, do you both believe as Mike and t8 has asserted earlier in a previous post …Quote Frank, I would like to see your DIRECT response to t8's excellent point that if John was informed in his revelation that Jesus is CALLED “the Word of God”, is it so far of a stretch to believe that John, later when he wrote his gospel, actually…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,07:06)Hi Frank, John the baptist was the one who paved the way for Yahsua and his role in fulfilling scripture is well shown in Jn1.6 and other places. He was never an apostleNick,And how is it that you have concluded that Apostle Yahchanan is the author of the so-called “Book of Yahchanan “?

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,06:57)Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,06:39)Hi Frank, Are you confusing JOHN THE BAPTIST with JOHN THE APOSTLE?Nick,Please refer to my post in response to Marty on this matter and give me your take on this atter in accordance with what is said in Scripture.*matter

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,06:39)Hi Frank, Are you confusing JOHN THE BAPTIST with JOHN THE APOSTLE?Nick,Please refer to my post in response to Marty on this matter and give me your take on this atter in accordance with what is said in Scripture.

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (942767 @ Feb. 28 2012,06:36)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Feb. 28 2012,05:53)To ALL,My last post is my response to Nick's response to my question that I had posed to ALL here and is as follows:To ALL,Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?Also take into consideration the following:If Yahchanan truly is the author of this…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    To ALL,If you believe that Yahshua pre-existed his birth as an actual being, what type of being do you believe he pre-existed his birth as?

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Feb. 28 2012,06:10)Quote (shimmer @ Feb. 27 2012,20:23)Just to interrupt,”By their fruits you will know them”.So far, I have only seen these good fruits (lasting) in NON Prexistances (On this Forum), and I have been sitting on the fence for quite some time now.Shimmer!  I don't think that is a fair statement, how would you know by…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,05:42)Hi Frank,If the Word is of God why is the vessel in doubt?Nick, Please take into consideration my last an previous posts on this matter.

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    To ALL,My last post is my response to Nick's response to my question that I had posed to ALL here and is as follows:To ALL,Who do you believe the author is to the so-called “Book of John”?Also take into consideration the following:If Yahchanan truly is the author of this book, then why is the following verse which is from the beginning of this…[Read more]

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,14:51)Hi Frank God wrote it. The vessel who recorded it was John. We should let God speak and not let men get in the way too much.Nick,From the contents of the so-called “Book of Yahchanan ” how is it that you can concluded “The vessel who recorded it was John”?

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    Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,14:39)Hi Frank, We must align with those who are more spiritual, like John, and not vice versa.Nick,I can not see how this is an explanation to the previous question that I have posed. Could you please explain to me more in depth why you believe that it is?

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