Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,13:13)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,19:56)No matter how the translators translate it “THE God” translation would still be in reference to FATHER Yahweh ……..That is correct, Frank. And how many “THE gods” does John mention in 1:1? “THE god” is who the logos was WITH. But John doesn't call the logos “TH…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 20 2012,13:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,12:08)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,18:57)…..but I certainly would tell him that I had esteem for him…….Frank, Jesus didn't ask about the esteem/glory GOD HAD FOR HIM. He asked about the glory HE HIMSELF HAD before the world began.You're trying to compare apples…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,12:08)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,18:57)…..but I certainly would tell him that I had esteem for him…….Frank, Jesus didn't ask about the esteem/glory GOD HAD FOR HIM. He asked about the glory HE HIMSELF HAD before the world began.You're trying to compare apples to oranges. Could your son ask for the g…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,11:25)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,17:49)Nick,Great Scriptural point, but the word “GOD” (small case or lower case) can also give reference in translation to others with power, strength or might (mighty ones).Thank you, Frank! Will the others just pretend that this isn't true when it's all over the…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 20 2012,11:07)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,11:41)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,13:26)That's right, Marty.The glory “which I HAD with thee”.If you want to pretend Jesus is not saying HE HAD glory with God before the world began, then that is your choice.Mike,As a father my son had esteem before he came into…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 20 2012,07:33)Hi, Jesus said the one the Jews called GOD was the Father.Jn 8.54Nick,Great Scriptural point, but the the word “GOD” (small case or lower case) can also give reference in translation to others with power, strength or might (mighty ones). Note that Yahweh made Moshe “a god” unto Pharaoh in translation and…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 20 2012,05:48)Frank………..You have presented it EXACTLY Right brother.Peace and love to you and yours……………………………………………………geneGene,Yes, it is what Yahweh had planned before the world began. Sort of like “Planned Parenthood”.

Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
GODO.E. god “supreme being, deity,” from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god, Ger. Gott, O.N. guð, Goth. guþ), from PIE *ghut- “that which is invoked” (cf. Skt. huta- “invoked,” an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- “to call, invoke.” But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- “poured,” from root *gheu- “to pour, pour a libation” (source of Gk. khein “to p…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 19 2012,13:26)That's right, Marty.The glory “which I HAD with thee”.If you want to pretend Jesus is not saying HE HAD glory with God before the world began, then that is your choice.Mike,As a father my son had esteem before he came into existence and he did not pre-exist his birth as an actual being. Note that Yahshua is…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 19 2012,08:14)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 19 2012,12:31)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,11:18)Wrong. The Word wasn't made flesh until Jesus was born of Mary. Yet somehow, Paul says it was JESUS who was existing in the form of God before he was MADE INTO a human being.How did “JESUS” get into Paul's statement if “JESUS” w…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,11:18)Wrong. The Word wasn't made flesh until Jesus was born of Mary. Yet somehow, Paul says it was JESUS who was existing in the form of God before he was MADE INTO a human being.How did “JESUS” get into Paul's statement if “JESUS” wasn't really a part of the events described?
Let the scriptures teach you, Ni…[Read more]Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 18 2012,07:42)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 17 2012,14:36)Nick,Yahshua Messiah is never once recorded as proclaiming that he had created ANYTHING!Nor did he create anything. All things were created by God THROUGH Jesus.Mike,ALL things were created by FATHER Yahweh ON ACCOUNT OF His SON Yahshua.Did Yahshua Create Or…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 18 2012,07:32)Hi,And if you know the Spirit of Christ is of and one with God in the Spirit you can understand how Christ is said to have created.In the beginning the Word was with God and the Word was GodNick,Yahshua Messiah is never once recorded as proclaiming that he had created ANYTHING!
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago
This says Yahweh, your Redeemer, and He that formed you from the womb, I am Yahweh that makes all things; that stretches forth the heavens ALONE; that spreads abroad the earth BY MYSELF; … (Isayah 44:24)You, even You, are Yahweh ALONE; You have made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein,…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 12 months ago
By Yahweh's word, the heavens were made; all their army by the breath of his mouth (Psalm 33:6 – W.E.B.)
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2012,05:42)Who is saying that the Father was NOT in Jesus and Jesus NOT in the Father.Who is also saying that we also CANNOT be in Jesus and in the Father and they NOT in us.No one is saying that, so it is not an excuse to use against myself and anyone else.But saying that the Father spoke through Jesus about himself (the…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 10 2012,05:42)Who is saying that the Father was NOT in Jesus and Jesus NOT in the Father.Who is also saying that we also CANNOT be in Jesus and in the Father and they NOT in us.No one is saying that, so it is not an excuse to use against myself and anyone else.But saying that the Father spoke through Jesus about himself (the…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,13:09)Hi Frank,Me neither.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J,Then why do you ask the question “The Bible doesn't say 'God was with God'?” and then seem to in turn answer the question in saying “The Bible says “The Word” was with God.” as if this is actually saying 'God was with God'? when…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,12:51)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 07 2012,12:30)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,12:20)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 07 2012,12:14)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,12:06)Hi Frank,Did you somehow miss my post addressed to you?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J, I'm still waiting for your answer for…[Read more]
Frank4YAHWEH replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years ago
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,12:20)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Mar. 07 2012,12:14)Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 07 2012,12:06)Hi Frank,Did you somehow miss my post addressed to you?God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd J, I'm still waiting for your answer for clarification.Hi Frank, read this post, it contains the answer you ask…[Read more]
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