Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,12:17)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,14:58)A parallel passage is John 6:38:    Quote For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the will of him who sent me.This statement confused the Jews who were listening to Jesus:    Quote John 6:42 They said, “Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose…[Read more]

In what sense did Jesus descend from heaven? (John 3:13)The whole of the verse in John 3:13 reports Jesus’ words to Nicodemus this way:    Quote “No one has ascended into heaven, except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.”The KJV adds the words, “which is in heaven.” Even without this addition it is clear that Jesus is not talking abo…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2012,07:42)Hi Frank, But Christadelpians are deceived.They do not know the Spirit.If you do not have the Spirit of Christ you are none of his.Nick,You are deceived!

Quote (terraricca @ April 23 2012,07:26)FQuote But should these Johannine texts be interpreted literally? In the 3rd century, church father Clement of Alexandria referred to the Gospel of John as “the spiritual gospel,” and scholars ever since have rightly endorsed this label. It is because the Johannine Jesus used so many metaphors. The most wel…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,07:21)Frank,Were you going to respond to the first post on this page………..or just continue to “own me”?  Jesus Did Not Pre-Exist“This is life eternal to know Thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom Thou hast sent” — John 17:3.Who Is Jesus Christ?We state this question in the present tense, because…[Read more]

Did Jesus Empty Himself of Any Divine Attributes? by Servetus the Evangelical The Apostle Paul wrote to the Christians at Philippi, exhorting them to be humble and love one another (Philippians 2.1-4). Then he addedwhat all modern scholars insist is a pre-existing hymn whose composer remains unknown. Paul introduces this hymn by telling readers,…[Read more]

Did Jesus Come Down from Heaven? by Servetus the Evangelical The institutional church has always claimed that the Bible says Jesus preexisted as God in heaven and came down to earth to become a man, called “the incarnation.”The Nicene Creed says of Jesus, “For us men and our salvation he came down from heaven.” The church also has claimed the inc…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,06:43)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 22 2012,13:27)“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him who sent me; …” (John 6:38, KJV).I have searched the Scriptures at length and (assuming I overlooked none), have found that the Apostle John is the only witness which says Yahshua came down…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,06:36)Quote (942767 @ April 22 2012,12:52)Hi Mike:I believe that the person on the horse described as faithful and true and the person that the scripture states that “his name is called the Word of God” is Jesus.Fantastic Marty!Now tell me, if you can comprehend that the title “the Word of God” is used to refer to…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2012,06:29)Hi FRank, John is meat. He offers food for the spiritual. Most chokeNick,You might want to perform a heimlich maneuver on Mike!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2012,06:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 22 2012,12:50)Hi MB, Still looking for others to DISPROVE YOUR THEORY?The scriptures you offer are about the WORD, not the man from Nazareth.Nope, just still noticing how not one of you guys is able to post a SINGLE SCRIPTURE that explains that when Jesus said, “I came down from…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 20 2012,13:21)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 16 2012,14:26)Quote (942767 @ April 16 2012,14:03)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 16 2012,13:27)Hi 94, Begotten son or conceived son?Hi Nick:This is the event to which I refer.  Jesus was uniquely begotten of God in the womb of the virgin Mary.  Maybe I did not use the proper word.Love i…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2012,13:08)Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 20 2012,07:59)Hi KW, Then do you KNOW if it is part of Sheol?Nick,I am confident that the writers of Scriptures knew what they were doing when they used Tartarus; a part of Hades.kerwin and Nick,Stay on topic of the thread at hand as the co-moderator (Mike) of this forum has instructed…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2012,13:04)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 20 2012,07:34)Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2012,12:18)Frank,You act like a fool, just as Job's wife did, by blinding yourself and so denying the Word of God.  Do you believe that Scripture erred by translating Sheol to the Greek Netherworld Hades?The original Scripture using the name of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2012,13:26)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 19 2012,20:19)I think it is so funny how Mike continuously gets owned on the very forum that he co-moderates!And I think it's hilarious how you keep referring to “you running away from my questions” as “me getting owned”.  Mike,I have never run away from any of your questions!…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ April 20 2012,13:17)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 20 2012,10:09)Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,19:11)Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2012,15:15)Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,09:32)Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,12:32)Hi Jammin,In the beginning: the HolySpirit was with God and was God; God's HolySpirit is now given to us.“And it shall come to…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ April 20 2012,12:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2012,10:34)Frank,I wonder if it did truly say “his name is called the Son of God”, would people like Marty still try to claim that he isn't actually the Son of God, it's just that his name is CALLED that – like they do with “Word of God”?  Hi Mike:When did I ever deny that Jesus is…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 20 2012,12:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 20 2012,02:45)kerwin,I'm not interested in participating in that thread, since it is quite obvious that you are intermingling Greek mythological thought with Hebrew in accordance with your response to me on this matter.Frank,You act like a fool, just as Job's wife did, by blinding…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 20 2012,12:05)Just like when when Abraham's name “was called Abram”, it didn't mean he was really “Abram”?  It's sometimes fun to read the silly things people come up with in an effort to force the scriptures to teach a doctrine they really don't teach.If “his NAME IS CALLED the Son” wouldn't change the fact that Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ April 20 2012,10:09)Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,19:11)Quote (kerwin @ April 19 2012,15:15)Quote (jammin @ April 19 2012,09:32)Quote (Ed J @ April 19 2012,12:32)Hi Jammin,In the beginning: the HolySpirit was with God and was God; God's HolySpirit is now given to us.“And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out…[Read more]