Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,12:56)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,19:35)Mike,Yahshua had the same origin as all men. Yahshua did not pre-exist his birth………….You can keep claiming it until you're blue in the face, Frank.  It won't change the fact that Jesus was existing in the form of God, having glory alongside God before the ages…[Read more]

To ALL,It is really quite simple avoiding all the personification of Father Yahweh's word and wisdom as actual beings. Father Yahweh's word is just that, His word. Personification of words does not make words LITERAL beings. What is true about the personification of Yahweh's set apart spirit is also true of the personification of His word and any…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 08 2012,14:58)Quote (Ed J @ May 08 2012,21:21)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 08 2012,13:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,13:49)Frank,What is the point of your long cut and paste job?  And how does it refute the fact that Jesus is the Word in John 1 and Rev 19?Mike,And where in Scripture does it ever say “Yahshua is the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2012,19:45)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 08 2012,08:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,13:49)Frank,What is the point of your long cut and paste job?  And how does it refute the fact that Jesus is the Word in John 1 and Rev 19?Mike,And where in Scripture does it ever say “Yahshua is the word.”? NOWHERE!Frank;I see where the Word…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2012,19:41)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 08 2012,08:52)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,13:11)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,20:07)Mike,Yahshua is a who, but the words that proceed from his mouth most certainly is not a “who”!Agreed, Frank.But John 1:1 and 1:14 speak of the “who”, Yahshua – just like Rev 19:13 does.Mike,Father…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,13:49)Frank,What is the point of your long cut and paste job?  And how does it refute the fact that Jesus is the Word in John 1 and Rev 19?Mike,And where in Scripture does it ever say “Yahshua is the word.”? NOWHERE!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,13:11)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,20:07)Mike,Yahshua is a who, but the words that proceed from his mouth most certainly is not a “who”!Agreed, Frank.But John 1:1 and 1:14 speak of the “who”, Yahshua – just like Rev 19:13 does.Mike,Father Yahweh's word is personified just as his wisdom is personified in the…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 08 2012,13:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,10:32)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,11:09)No Kerwin,The Word is who was WITH Yahweh in the beginning.  Mike,Father Yahweh's word is not a “who”! LOL!Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2012,10:32)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,17:07)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,11:09)No Kerwin,The Word is who was WITH Yahweh in the beginning.  Mike,Father Yahweh's word is not a “who”! LOL!Revelation 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.Is Father Yahweh's word a “who” in…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,06:55)Oh, I'm wrong?Then address the 4 lines in my post and show me what the passage really says, Frank.Because you just claiming over and over that Jesus didn't pre-exist is worth nothing to any serious Bible student.  Show me the scripture that PROHIBITS the pre-existence of Jesus as a sentient being/entity.If…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,11:09)No Kerwin,The Word is who was WITH Yahweh in the beginning.  Good point about Yashua being a very popular name, and therefore not “the name above all other names”.Mike,Father Yahweh's word is not a “who”! LOL!

Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,09:30)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 06 2012,00:23)Many believe that the name Yahshua (Yeshua, Jesus) is the name above every other name. Many point out the following passages of Scripture to prove that the name Yahshua (Yeshua, Jesus) is above every other name.Philippians 2:9-11 – Wherefore Yahweh also has highly exalted…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,09:01)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 07 2012,01:13)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,06:05)Hi MB,The Word was with God. The Word was made flesh.No relationship between Jesus and the Word till the Jordan and now Jesus Christ is the Word.Nick,Yahshua did not have any relationship with Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,03:06)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 05 2012,13:37)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,06:14)Hi Frank, Jesus was no more empowered to do or know supernatural things than any natural man is, till he was anointed at the Jordan. He showed us the way and it is not by might nor by power but by the Spirit.He said we who are in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,06:05)Hi MB,The Word was with God. The Word was made flesh.No relationship between Jesus and the Word till the Jordan and now Jesus Christ is the Word.Nick,Nowhere in ANY translation does it ever say “Jesus Christ is the Word.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,06:16)Hi FRank, He was familiar with the written word as his visit to the temple confirms. But the word that was with God and was God became one with him at the Jordan.Nick,So YOUR “Jesus” was separate from YOUR “God's” word before he came to the Jordan?

Quote (jammin @ May 07 2012,01:18)christ is the word in john 1.1verse 14-18 confirms thatjammit,In the beginning was the Christ, and the Christ was with God, and the Christ was God. No! That most definitely is not how it reads in ANY translation!

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,06:05)Hi MB,The Word was with God. The Word was made flesh.No relationship between Jesus and the Word till the Jordan and now Jesus Christ is the Word.Nick,Yahshua did not have any relationship with Father Yahweh's inspired prophetic word until he was immersed by Yahchanan in the Jordan? Not in accordance with…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2012,07:01)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ May 06 2012,13:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2012,01:34)John 1 14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth. 15 John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, “This was he o…[Read more]