Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,11:56)fscriptures says MAIDEN  I thinkYes, I do not believe that she was actually a “virgin” when she gave birth to Yahshua.

In the beginning was the spoken word, and the words were from Yahweh, and the words were Yahweh's. It was in the beginning from Yahweh. All things were made through Yahweh's word and without it nothing was made that was made. In Yahweh's words were Life, and the Life was the Light of men.. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did…[Read more]

For who at that time would have believed the Virgin's word that she had conceived of the Holy Ghost, and that the angel Gabriel had come and announced the purpose of God? and would not ALL have given their opinion against her as an adulteress, like Susanna? For at the present day, now that the whole world has embraced the faith, the Jews argue…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,10:46)Was the Virgin Birth Doctrine Part of the Original Gospels?The gospels of Mark and John say absolutely NOTHING about the virgin birth of the Messiah, and throughout assume Yeshua to have been of normal human birth. It is only in the gospels of Matthew and Luke that the pagan fable of the virgin birth is…[Read more]

Was the Virgin Birth Doctrine Part of the Original Gospels?The gospels of Mark and John say absolutely NOTHING about the virgin birth of the Messiah, and throughout assume Yeshua to have been of normal human birth. It is only in the gospels of Matthew and Luke that the pagan fable of the virgin birth is introduced — and ONLY in the first two…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,10:40)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,17:34)Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,10:02)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,16:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,09:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,09:08)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,22:38)………his utterance was begotten from him……………Oh brother.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,10:02)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,16:35)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,09:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,09:08)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,22:38)………his utterance was begotten from him……………Oh brother.  God begat a word, Kerwin?  Just ONE word, making it the ONLY begotten of God?  …[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 11 2012,09:35)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,09:08)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,22:38)………his utterance was begotten from him……………Oh brother.  God begat a word, Kerwin?  Just ONE word, making it the ONLY begotten of God?  Or more than one word, making the “ONLY” part null and void?Then Mike attempts to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 11 2012,09:08)Quote (kerwin @ July 09 2012,22:38)………his utterance was begotten from him……………Oh brother.  God begat a word, Kerwin?  Just ONE word, making it the ONLY begotten of God?  Or more than one word, making the “ONLY” part null and void?Then Mike attempts to entrap kerwin in his words as is they we…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 11 2012,07:32)fQuote Job again says (in Job 16:21) that —   IF ONLY there was one who would PLEAD FOR A MAN WITH YEHOVAH, as a man pleads for his brother.this was neede but the plan was in progress (Gen 3;15)Pieear,Yes, the PLAN (LOGOS) was in progress, but the man Yahshua had not yet come into existence!

The Story of the Pagan Christian Logos!Many of the Saturday-keeping Churches of today teach that prior to Yeshua's earthly ministry there were TWO GODS. They have fallen for the SAME doctrines of ancient PAGANISM which the trinity believing Christians have submitted to! To prove their viewpoint they take the Prologue to the book of John and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,12:57)It seems the Trini's usually like the word “by” – as in “the world was created BY Jesus”.  Anyway, the reason I used Tertullian's quote is to show creating through Jesus doesn't mean God didn't do the creating by Himself.After all, my son only exists because he is a creation of God alone.  But God created h…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,12:57)It seems the Trini's usually like the word “by” – as in “the world was created BY Jesus”.  Anyway, the reason I used Tertullian's quote is to show creating through Jesus doesn't mean God didn't do the creating by Himself.After all, my son only exists because he is a creation of God alone.  But God created h…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,12:16)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 06 2012,19:00)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,11:09)Tertullian put it simply:  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another.Mike,And BTW, was not Tertullian a Trinitarian, since it is recorded that “He wrote his trinitarian formula after becoming a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,12:25)Good post, t8.  It sucked!

Quote (t8 @ July 07 2012,12:18)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,14:53)I claim what Father Yahweh has claimed in His inspired prophetic word and that is that He “ALONE”, “BY HIMSELF” with “NO ONE BESIDE HIM” created the heavens and the earth and ALL things in them. I believe that those FEW small GREEK words are more appropriately translated as…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 07 2012,12:12)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,14:25)Mike,I really do not believe that you and kerwin “are trying to find out if that phrase refers to Jesus in John 1:1 and 1:14.” I believe that you already have this preconceived belief engrained into your mind and you are doing anything in an attempt to convince kerwin…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,11:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,11:09)I don't claim that Jesus created anything, Frank.  I claim that God, alone and by Himself, created all things through His Son Jesus Christ.Tertullian put it simply:  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another.Mike,Tertullian's words m…[Read more]

Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ July 07 2012,11:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,11:09)I don't claim that Jesus created anything, Frank.  I claim that God, alone and by Himself, created all things through His Son Jesus Christ.Tertullian put it simply:  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another.Mike,Tertullian's words m…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 07 2012,11:09)I don't claim that Jesus created anything, Frank.  I claim that God, alone and by Himself, created all things through His Son Jesus Christ.Tertullian put it simply:  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing is created is another.Mike,Tertullian's words most certainly have not been included as S…[Read more]