Jesus according to Isaiah:Isaiah 53Who has believed our report?And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,And as a root out of dry ground.He has no form or comeliness;And when we see Him,There is no beauty that we should desire Him.3 He is despised and rejected by men,A Man of sorrows and…[Read more]

JESUS according to Jesus, Stephen, and Moses:JESUS:Luke 24:25 Then He said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Ought not the Christ to have suffered these things and to enter into His glory?” 27 And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,22:22)bumpWhat does this mean? I am not up with the new/foreign terminologies, WM.

1 Cor 11:3 But I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man, and the head of Christ is God…. 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. 8 For man is not from woman, but woman from man. 9 Nor was man created for the woman, but woman…[Read more]

Gotta run now. Nice chatting with you.

It is also the Father's will that I do, as Jesus affirmed.

Thanks for the warning but I worship no other God besides the Father. I regard no one beside him or equal to him with whom he can be compared.

WM,Perhaps what you need to consider is what it means to worship God vs what it means to worship anyone else. And for that, you will need to go back to the scriptures.Moreover, it needs to be considered also that the Father's WILL is what is to be done on earth as it is in heaven, thus the highest worship is ascribed to him when His WILL is…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,17:24)Ah but God said not to worship any other god.  If Nick says Jesus is also a God himself then this would be counterdiction.  Since the Church of so and so is not God we find this as not going against God's word and yet it is so counterdicting everything God establishes in his word.  It is things like th…[Read more]

Princes and kings sit on thrones.Princes and kings are worshipped as such.We shall inherit and rule the earth… That is just part of the backdrop, but the scripture that I just shared with you is direct and would seem to make sense out of the above. Plus just to be the Bride of Christ, the Body of Christ who himself is the Lord of Creation,…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,17:15)I believe that some higher power exist.  But I do not believe that higher power retains all the properties of the God portrayed in the Bible.  However I can read what the Bible has to say and I can see for myself that it says this and not that.  If I were to believe in the Bible 100% what I debate is wh…[Read more]

Quote (WhiteMateria @ July 11 2005,17:12)You are forgetting…Exd 34:14 For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name Jealous, a jealous God:And if we are to honor Jesus Christ any differently we have not honor him as the father.No doubt we shall be worshipped, as kings of the earth… but does that mean that our glory shall…[Read more]

Hello Whitemateria:You said you used to be a christian and are now no longer a christian. Are you reconsidering becoming a christian again?Do you believe any portion(s) of the Word of God?Are you an atheist or do you hold to some other belief?

Quote (stroshow @ July 10 2005,23:27)John 5:23 that all may honor the Son “just as” they honor theFather. He who does not honor the Son does not honorthe Father, who sent him. What does “just as” mean to you?How do you honor the Father? Do you Honor Jesus “JUSTAS you honor the Father. Or do you honor Jesus”differently.You honor the Father by…[Read more]

Clarification:Jesus is the Life but he is given us by God (John 4: If you knew the gift of God and who it is that stands before you… he was referring to the Father's gift which is himself ). Moreover Jesus has life in himself but he received it from His Father.The Father is the True God, the only one who is holy and good — because everybody…[Read more]

Hi Laurreaus:I haven't read stroshow's post yet but hope to in the near future:If you consider the entirety of scripture, you would realize that Jesus is made Lord by the Father, whereas the Father is not made God by any other. Also all things have their origin in the Father. He is:The Father of Lights, as opposed to Jesus being the Light or…[Read more]

Hi Dianalevich,Here's my understanding so far:Act 5:4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God…Act 5:9 Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the…[Read more]

That's the spirit, Nick, way to go! Sometimes you've just got to do that.

Hi FYI,The dictionary definitions are not very helpful in determining the things of God. The biblical verses are–or the biblical lexicon.

Thank you, Nick.Well, I love New Zealand for that reason alone although I know it is a beautiful place and has much to offer. You have to realize that as much as possible, I avoid the snake exhibit when I visit a Zoo, that's how bad it's been! But yesterday was liberating. And no, I didn't know that Ruud is a New Zealander–go figure! Well we…[Read more]