Quote (Jodi Lee @ June 26 2009,06:47)Quote (Cindy @ June 26 2009,05:18)To all!  There are two articles in the Britannia Encyclopedia has this to say about Lucifer.           Page 397  Lucifer ( Greek Phosphorous, “light bearer, the morning star; i.e. the planet Venus at dawn.  Personified as a male figure bearing a torch. Lucifer almost has no…[Read more]

To all!  There are two articles in the Britannia Encyclopedia has this to say about Lucifer.           Page 397  Lucifer ( Greek Phosphorous, “light bearer, the morning star; i.e. the planet Venus at dawn.  Personified as a male figure bearing a torch. Lucifer almost has no legend, but in Poetry Often herald of the dawn. St. Jerome transla…[Read more]

He was the firstborn of all creation into eternal life.  IMOpeace and love…………………….gene  Back to top ——————————————————————————–   Gene All I do is give you Scriptures.  No forcing the text at all.          Jesus was the firstborn of all creation,  Rev. 3:14 and Co. 1:15-17  …[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 25 2009,20:19)Quote (Cindy @ June 25 2009,18:57)Quote (Stu @ June 25 2009,07:03)…you can see Jesus in Isaiah if you screw your eyes up really tight and imagine hard, completely reinterpreting is as you go and ignoring all the 'prophecy' that does NOT match the gospel mythology.Stuart    I'm glad you agree with me.StuartStu I d…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ May 31 2009,09:17)So, Irene, when Georg says “You're too much” what exactly is that supposed to mean? Love,KathiHey I don't kniow, you have to ask Him. In the beginning the Word was brought forth from the Father. How that was done, Scripture really doesn't say that. When He became a Man He was born of course like us. We all…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ June 25 2009,08:28)Quote (Paladin @ June 25 2009,08:17)Quote (thethinker @ June 25 2009,03:19)Paladin said:Quote When two sit facing one another, they are BOTH at the other's right hand.Jehovah Adonay is at the right hand of resurrected Messiah, after the same fashion as the logos was “face to face” “with” God. I am glad to see…[Read more]

Quote (Stu @ June 25 2009,07:03)…you can see Jesus in Isaiah if you screw your eyes up really tight and imagine hard, completely reinterpreting is as you go and ignoring all the 'prophecy' that does NOT match the gospel mythology.Stuart

Adam What seems to me that you usually follow man. The Virgin Birth is plainly documented in Math. and in Luke. I am certain that is the whole truth. Also the preexisting of Jesus has a few plain Scriptures, that can plainly identify Jesus. The one Scripture even Jesus Himself tells us that He was with God before the World was in John 17:5 “…[Read more]

Marty  If you look in Job 38:7 you will find that the morning stars are the Angels.  Lucifer is not a man, but an Angel, according to Job. The morning Stars shouted for joy, at the creation of the earth. The only one that ever fell from Heaven are the Angels.  1/3 of the Angels went with Satan in Rev. 12:4  there too the Angels are called the sta…[Read more]

Kathi!  Do I trust Jesus?  That is not the Question here.  Do I trust Him that He died for me, yes.  And of course He would not disappoint me.  He is Gods Son.  I don't have to follow the Father, as I follow Christ, that is not a question to ask.  I told you that I honor Jesus, He is our Mediator to go to the Throne of God and confess our sin. H…[Read more]

BD Why are you so obsessed to want to know if the Jews are going to hell or not? Like Nick and Marty said it is not our place to say who is saved and who is not. Judging is for God to do. The Jewish People are God's People and He is not forsaken them. They have been punished, and if the time with Hitler would not have been cut short, no Jew…[Read more]

Jodi and Gene!  Since we are so confused about Isaiah 14:12 I did pray about it.  And so I looked all up.First I looked in the Hebrew and Greek Dictionary,before I did not think to look in the Strong's Concordance.  Which I just did not to long ago. In it says Lucifer Son of the morning. Then I looked in Job 38:7 It says there :” When the mo…[Read more]

Kathi I was rather surprised that you honor the Father and the Son the same way. I do not. The Son does deserve honor, but not the same then the Father. You do know what it says in Ephesians 4:6 The Father is,above all. So all worship goes to the Father. The Father is the Almighty God while Jesus is the Mighty God. I do know that You do not…[Read more]

So that Word of God then became flesh in verse 14?  Not so.  John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God.  verse 3 He made all and whatever was made, was made by Him.  That all goes with Col. 1:15-17 and Rev. 3:14 He did not always existed.  He was the firstborn of all creation, Col. 1:15 and Rev. 3:14…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2009,14:50)Hi Jodi, Was this word that was in God's mind with God?Yes Nick and it became flesh!!!!!!hMMMMMMMIrene

942767 So when Col. says that He was the firstborn of all creation, that is false? And whatever was created was through Christ is false? When it says i John 17:5 That Jesus asked His Father to give Him back the glory, which He had with Him before the world was, is false? When it says that He had preeminence in all, is false? When it says that…[Read more]

datguy You are right that Jesus was the firstborn of all creation.Col. 1:15 ” He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.verse 16 For by Him all things were created that are in Heaven and that are on earth……..verse 17 And He is the head of the Church, who is the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may…[Read more]

Hello Joe! Welcome. I am very happy for you, that God has called you. You will find that God will open the door to all kind of understanding of the Scriptures, once you have been Baptized. Are you Baptized? Raising teenagers is not an easy task., even with God on your side. You are a good person to block things that are so wrong, from your…[Read more]

Nick You are absolutely right!! Man has never seen Heaven were God sits on His throne, and the Angels of God, who are called the Sons of God. While Satan was like the morning star so bright at one time, until iniquity was found in Him. He was Lucifer that beautiful Angel. Let me ask you a question:” Did any king ever go into Heaven and tried…[Read more]

Not all Scriptures are metaphor's. In this case, we know that Satan has fallen from Heaven and is the God of this world, to deceive the many. He also has a very short time left, before Christ will soon return, and he will be bound for a thousand years. I do not get hung up on anything. God permitted Satan to test Job. And we also know he tested…[Read more]