thinker, Paladin, Gene and Nick! I read most of the tread and I have to say this. First of all, no one wants to believe that Jesus not only was in the bosom of the Father, but was there as a Spirit being. Col 1:15-17Rev. 3:14shows that He preexisted His birth as a Human being. He was the firstborn of all creation. He than created all by the…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,19:24)Quote (Gene @ Aug. 10 2009,14:31)Thinker……..Nether ME or NICK or IRENE do that, It is the TRINITARIAN DOCTRINE the MAKES JESUS EQUAL WITH THE FATHER NOT US. even though Jesus said the Father was (GREATER) then He.  Thinker making another GOD is an ACT OF IDOLATRY, all trinitarians need to think about…[Read more]

Hi Kathi! Did you say that your Sons are coming Home on Wednesday the 12th? I go to the Surgeon that day. So I will pray the night before. Love Irene

Quote (Not3in1 @ Aug. 10 2009,09:36)Wow, lots of action on the board!I am post-op now, my robotic hysterectomy went very well!!!  I'm home having a speedy recovery.  Thanks for all the prayers!Love,MandyMandy! I am happy for you that all went fine. I too will pray again. Love Irene

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,11:00)Quote (Cindy @ Aug. 01 2009,14:25)What a bunch of nonsense.  Jesus is our Mediator and John would never say that He prayed to Him.  However it is in the Name of Jesus that we pray to the Father.  And Gene is right, about Lord and LORD.  So many Trinitarians mix Scriptures up, for their belief.  When will they…[Read more]

In Galatians 4:22  It is written that Abraham had two Son's:” the one by a bondwoman, the other by a free woman.  verse 23 But he who was of the bondwoman, was born according to flesh.  And he of the free woman through promise.verse 24 which things are symbolic.  For these are the two Covenants, the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bon…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 10 2009,02:07)Thinker………..Joshua, was not building a Spiritual House , but a Physical one. The rest will start when Jesus returns , “FOR THERE REMAINS A KEEPING OF THE SABBATH FOR THE PEOPLE OF GOD”, that takes place in Millennial reign of Christ. IMOpeace and love…………………geneGene With that I agree. There is…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Aug. 10 2009,00:04)Jesus has been very busy in the middle east. Here's one link but theres plenty more sites. http://www.jesusvisions.org/index.shtmlThese are some brave enough to tell their story, I wonder how many more Jesus has visited?Peace and love.The Bible tells us that in the end times we will see Miracles.  Those…[Read more]

Quote (Gene @ Aug. 10 2009,01:42)Squirrel…………(ALL) the new testament was written with (ALL) capital letters in the original GREEK. Jesus is Lord to the (GLORY OF GOD) his GOD.peace and love………………geneAlso in the King James it is lLord for Jesus and LORD for our Heavenly Father.Peace and Love Irene

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 10 2009,00:28)Quote (savannah1207 @ Aug. 06 2009,20:31)Yes,we are so close to Jesus coming back.Our time is very very very short now.The NWO is very close.Every time I turn on CNN they're talking about it.Actually during the G8 Summit confrence a few months back the Russian president pulls out the new world currency money…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:54)Irene said:Quote There is just one True God, but in the beginning God brought forth His only begotten Son.There is not one statement throughout all of Scripture that says that the Son was “brought forth.” Proverbs 8 says that wisdom was brought forth. There are not two Gods. Kathi has given up on debating her…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,11:49)Irene said:Quote What I find amazing that even the Catholic Church knows that God and Elohim is a title.The Father was and always will be greater and above all.John 14:28Ephesians 4:6Titles mean what they say. A man who has the title “captian” of a ship is a captain of a ship. The Father called Jesus by the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 09 2009,08:03)Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 08 2009,23:56)Irene said:Quote God the Father will always be greater then the Son and ALLIrene,Your statement amounts to the denial that Jesus has been exalted to His Father's right hand. Your belief system is not Christian. Kathi is teaching that there were two Gods involved in creation…[Read more]

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,05:02)To All,On another thread Kathi has said that there were two Gods involved in creation. Yet no anti-trinitarians here have jumped on her for it. Is all polytheism idolatrous or just trinitariansim?thinkerIf you would read what Scriptures tell you about the preexisting of Jesus, you would not have to ask that…[Read more]

Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ Aug. 09 2009,07:15)Jesus stuff dont go on tv very much:DDo you watch O' Reilly or Glenn Beck? We do!!!Irene

Quote (thethinker @ Aug. 09 2009,04:56)Irene said:Quote God the Father will always be greater then the Son and ALLIrene,Your statement amounts to the denial that Jesus has been exalted to His Father's right hand. Your belief system is not Christian. Kathi is teaching that there were two Gods involved in creation and you don't attack that. All you…[Read more]

thinker Since Kathi's post is no another page I did not read Her post. So before you jump all over me, get the facts straight first. The tread is about Elohim not Kathi. Did you not find it ironic that I found Elohim only in my Catholic Bible. We were Catholics until my Husband was 47 and I was 46. We both are thankful to God that He brought…[Read more]

Hi karmarie! I am so happy for you, that you have found God or He has found you out. It is so peaceful with Him. You got your hands full with 5 Children. We had 4 and that was enough. When they became Teenagers it is really fun. I worried my Heart out, for our Daughter. Our Sons were a piece of Cake. We now have 7 Grandchildren. We are 71…[Read more]

To all!   I find it so ironic that in all the Books we have I cannot find Elohim anywhere.  Not in Strong's Concordance, or Strong's Bible Dictionary, not in King James Concordance or Britannica Encyclopedia.  Or in the New International Bible.  But I did not believe my eyes, it is in the Catholic Bible. It says:” Elohim is one of the names for…[Read more]

Since I did not write down which of the Song's I have posted, I have to go by my memory. So if I post a song twice please excuse me. THE KING OF LOVE MY SHEPARD IS The King of love my Shepard is Whose goodness faileth never I nothing lack if I am His And he is mine forever When streams of living waters flow My…[Read more]