Kerwin, we do have a NIV and i just looked up Col.1:15 and it says the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation…..Go figure…..Irene

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2010,10:20)Irene,I use a different translation which goes:Revelation 3:14(NIV):Quote “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:   These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. Kerwin, I believe that the King James version of the Bible is the closest to the original Gree…[Read more]

Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 14 2010,19:28)Mikeboll,Here is the deal. I never told you that you worship God in Vain. Spin-King, no matter how you spin it, that is judgement. I had stated my opinion on it, and you challenged me and gave examples on how I was wrong. I posted a list, that as written, proves to me that Jesus is God the son. You proceed to…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 15 2010,07:42)Adam,I do not know what you know and what you do not know.  It therefore seems wiser to assume you speak from lack of knowledge unless I am certain that you have it.  In this case you have demonstrated that you have some knowledge about the new creation but you word also seem to show that knowledge is less or d…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 15 2010,08:53)Mike,I checked you NetBible today…I was astounded to see all the proofs of 'Spiritual' laid bare AGAINST you.No wonder you never refered to, or from it, in your defence – because it proves AGAINST you.And whom should this verse be appointed to:1 Cor 2:15 “The one who is spiritual discerns all things – yet he…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 14 2010,09:46)To all,Laurel brought up these three scriptures on the Jewish Messiah thread and I am repeating them here for us to meditate on.Quote Exo. 12:49 “There is one Torah for the native-born and for the stranger who sojourns among you.”andNumbers 15: 14 ‘And when a stranger sojourns with you, or whoever is among you t…[Read more]

Since nobody has given all of the Scriptures that show we are under grace and the new covenant I will.first the old in Exd 34:27 ¶ And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel. Exd 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Oct. 09 2009,21:54)Thanks for such agreement. But but my plea is to read the bible with jewish eyes than with helenistic Christian eyes.That's were you go wrong. You call yourself a Christian, but think like a Jew.That is not a Christian to me….it is the Faith in Christ that saves us. In fact a Gift from God. Eph 2:7 That…[Read more]

Ed! I did not even listen to that. I will never ever go by what any man will say. Scriptures is what is important to me. And since I have God's Holy Spirit in my mind, I understand Scriptures…..do away with all the nonsense of other humans and you numbers and then we can discuss Scriptures only…..Let the mind of Jesus be in you….not…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 13 2010,03:51)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 13 2010,01:04)Shimmer!  yes, Jesus came in the flesh.  yes, Jesus did rise from the death in the flesh.  But NO He did not go to Heaven in the flesh.  He appeared to Thomas in the flesh because He did not believe that Jesus rose from the death.  Believing that flesh and blood can ente…[Read more]

PierreThe other sheep were brought into the fold after the 70 weeks were up.Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. The “heavenly ” call has been going out ever since. Paul referred to it as the “heavenly”…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2010,08:47)Hi Georg,So the spirit of Georg is NOT really Georg then; right?Well then, just exactly who is the spirit of Georg?Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd, I know you are so full of wisdom, so let me ask you a simpler question.You are a man, according to Paul there is a “spirit” in you; where do you think that…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ Dec. 12 2010,20:56)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2010,13:52)Quote (Shimmer @ 7)So it seems anyone who says Jesus is not still in the flesh is a deceiver according to the Bible.  That is not at all what those scriptures are saying Shimmer.  They are addressed towards those who claim the Messiah had not come at all.  They say no…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 12 2010,08:47)Hi Georg,So the spirit of Georg is NOT really Georg then; right?Well then, just exactly who is the spirit of Georg?Ed Jhttp://www.holycitybiblecode.orgYou're asking me because you don't know, or because you don't understand?What is the spirit in man? is it another man? is it another person? What did Paul…[Read more]

Kerwin! Also you believe that Jesus will come back as flesh body? This Scripture tells us what he will comeback asRev 19:13 And he clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. Rev 19:14 And the armies in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. Rev 19:15 And…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2010,09:32)Irene,You wrote:Quote Kerwin!  If you believe that Jesus went to Heaven, then you should also believe that He was not with the body He died with.  Why?? Because Scripture says that1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit in…[Read more]

Quote (theodorej @ Dec. 11 2010,18:02)Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 10 2010,02:17)Whew! thats alot of typing. What led up to that letter was like I wrote, My dad had died 6/07. That summer was really a huge change in my life. After dad died, I read the bible from the beginning to the end. Then the man (my boss in the beginning) who mentored me and put…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 12 2010,09:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 11 2010,20:06)Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 11 2010,18:07)My convictions on this matter lead me to conclude that the natural flesh and blood body of Jesus was buried after his crucifixion and that he rose in his imperishable spiritual body on the day of his resurrection and it is that body that…[Read more]

Mike”””God is the only Saviour.”I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.” Isaiah 43:11″””Yes, it is God that saves, but only through Jesus, because Jesus died in our stead, as you said.”””…the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14Neither is there salvation in any other (than Jesus): for there is none…[Read more]

hello cousin PierreIt is a “heavenly” call, no doubt, but it is a call for all of those that were “predestined” to be called.Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, It is not by “our” efforts that we will be called.Rom 8:29 For whom he did…[Read more]