Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,02:15)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 24 2010,06:06)The “flesh” body of Jesus had done its job, it took upon him all of our sins, and it had to remain dead, or else we will all remain dead once we die. God would not allow that body to decay as all of our body's do, so he deposed of it, for more then one reason.  Look what…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 24 2010,11:53)To All………….interesting most of the people that quote that don't cast you pearls before swines are the most confused of all, IMO> If a person is making a claim to something they seem to think they know then they need to produce it with clear accurate scripture understanding , not conjectures or it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2010,08:54)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,14:26)wen Christ dies he dies physically I mean his body is destroyed ,I don't think so Pierre.  Because of these scriptures:Acts 2 NIV31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Dec. 24 2010,03:28)Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 23 2010,09:48)3. Am I correct in understanding that you are saying that you are God's special witness, proven by gemantra?YepEd believes that “his name” is in the Bible or more specifically the Bible speaks of him personally!WJWJ Are you kidding me? Ed thinks his name is in the…[Read more]

To allI don't think none of you understand the “word” SPIRIT.Why did Jesus say, God is a “spirit”?What if I say, Paul was a “human”, would you understand what that means? it means humans are “visible” and spirits are “INVISIBLE”. So is our mind, it is invisible; that is why Paul called it a “spirit”.There are two worlds, a “spirit” world, and a…[Read more]

Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 20 2010,22:15)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 19 2010,17:22)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 18 2010,20:48)To all: This is for all who are born again. Those who recognize that they have died (like Paul said) and it is no longer them who liveth but Christ in them….!  We were dead in our sin but Jesus the word of God raised us up from the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:17)Irene,As far as Revelation 7: 13-14 is concerned anyone who enters the new covenant and persists in holding to its precepts though faith will be there to praise our God in those times.You read Daniel 2:2 instead of Daniel 12:2.  I quoted the later.I was not stating that all the dead were resurrected when Jesus…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,11:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,16:57)Are the posters here aware that Irene, Pierre and myself are NOT saying Jesus wasn't raised with a flesh body?We ACKNOWLEDGE the scripture where Jesus said he still had “flesh and bone”, and that spirits DON'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE.We are only waiting for the rest you to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 22 2010,09:57)Are the posters here aware that Irene, Pierre and myself are NOT saying Jesus wasn't raised with a flesh body?We ACKNOWLEDGE the scripture where Jesus said he still had “flesh and bone”, and that spirits DON'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE.We are only waiting for the rest you to follow the OTHER part of that scripture.…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,10:34)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 22 2010,10:51)Kerwin!  I just looked at Job 19;25-26 and Georg and I were debating this.  We feel that that Scripture cannot be true.  Nobody in the flesh can look at God in all of His glory directly and live.  Inh the KJ Moffatt version it explains it this wayverse 25 Still I know One of…[Read more]

Gene!2Jo 1:7 ¶ For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.  This is what is the spirit of Anti-Christ and has nothing to do with the preexisting of Jesus….Also noticed ” come into thje world.  Where did Jesus come from.  It does not say born into the…[Read more]

Kerwin! I just looked at Job 19;25-26 and Georg and I were debating this. We feel that that Scripture cannot be true. Nobody in the flesh can look at God in all of His glory directly and live. Inh the KJ Moffatt version it explains it this wayverse 25 Still I know One of champion me at last, to stand up for me upon the easrth.verse 26 This…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 21 2010,18:04)To all,According to Shimmer’s source scripture state the following:Quote Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead. – Isa 26:19This sounds like the account of the r…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 21 2010,15:39)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 21 2010,05:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 21 2010,03:19)Irene ………… There is NO CLEAR Scripture that say Jesus preexisted His Earthly existence other then in the Plan and Will of GOD.  If there are Show me what his mane was and what work he did, CLEARLY not by conjectures you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2010,12:27)Hi Irene and Pierre,We should all save our breath when it comes to Gene and the pre-existent topic.  When someone will go as far as INSISTING that John 1:14 says “the Word CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH”, when that's not what God's inspired words actually say, we have passed into the territory of…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 21 2010,03:19)Irene ………… There is NO CLEAR Scripture that say Jesus preexisted His Earthly existence other then in the Plan and Will of GOD.  If there are Show me what his mane was and what work he did, CLEARLY not by conjectures you and others make. Where is your *TRUE* PROOFS. Don't give me scriptures that…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,18:02)To All……………..The complete teaching of Jesus Preexistence is a fabricated LIE, derived from the false teaching of the Gnostic's first, then to the Trinitarians, and both of these false teachings provided the foundation for the false teachings of Preexistence of Jesus, they both remove Jesus from…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,03:43)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 20 2010,02:51)Mike!  I too agree that Jesus was in the flesh when he rose from the death.  The reason i say that is Jesus asked his Father this Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.  if Jesus was res…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,11:18)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 20 2010,08:45)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2010,03:43)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 20 2010,02:51)Mike!  I too agree that Jesus was in the flesh when he rose from the death.  The reason i say that is Jesus asked his Father this Jhn 17:5   And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with th…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 19 2010,02:07)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 19 2010,01:59)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 18 2010,22:19)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Dec. 18 2010,21:11)Hey Ed: Why don't you just answer her straight. No, Jesus did not teach numerology. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Don't be so defensive. Numerology is an amazing thing. I find it incredible but Jesus…[Read more]