Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 26 2010,21:47)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2010,05:16)Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 25 2010,18:36)And nearly all other Christan people will agree with this…  that Jesus was raised from the dead in the flesh, and that after so many days he assended in his glorified body to heaven. And this is the truth and these are the facts.Hi…[Read more]

To All!  Deos any of you believe in the ransom??? and what do you think a ransom is?Mar 10:45   For even the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. 1Ti 2:5   For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;   1Ti 2:6   Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be t…[Read more]

Is any one surprised that we, in the 21st century, behave just as the Israelis behaved in the OT? practicing pagan worship with all the trimmings? and they had Moses to lead them. who do “WE” have to lead us? Catholics, Lutherans, Protestants, Baptists; do I really have to name them all?And every one of them claims to have the truth; what does…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2010,03:08)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,18:19)Jesus never sinned, his “mind” was pure, it was his flesh body that took on Adam's sin. It was his flesh body that became the “ransom”, the exchange for Adam.Hi Georg,I agree with the above part.Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,18:19)Jesus was dead for three days, when God raised…[Read more]

I found this on the internet Frequently Asked Bible Questions When was Jesus Christ born? Was Jesus born on December 25—Christmas Day?History shows that December 25 was popularized as the date for Christmas, not because Christ was born on that day, but because it was already popular in pagan religious celebrations as the birthday of the sun. B…[Read more]

Hello again, there is plenty of information that tell us that Christ was not born on Dec.25. The question is, is it right to celebrate His birthday on a day when the God Sun has his Birthday?We had all of our Family at our House on the 25th with Dinner and presents for our youngest Grandchildren. We had a good time….We did not have a tree etc.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 26 2010,03:58)Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 25 2010,19:26)MIKeJesus body died and Christ was resurrected a living spirit ,that means he was back alive but in the spirit,and so took a body just to beable to talk to his disciples verbally because they could not recognize him physically and also show miracles so that they were…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 25 2010,14:09)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,20:36)Shimmer, this is not fromthe JW, which I too found on the Internet.  Noticed the Scriptures….Ransom theory of atonementFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search Part of a series on Atonement inChristianity Christus VictorGovernmentalMoral…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,21:49)George,You do not see 'Spirit'…you see 'Spiritual'Why do you lie to the whole forum like Mikeboll does, by changing one word to another then 'proving' something someone did not say.George, Scriptures does not say anything about a 'Spirit Body'.There is not one single phrase, or reference to 'Spirit…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,21:03)George,Your response to me…a question I put to Mikeboll for a discussional flow reason (I wasn't asking for lack of knowledge…when is anyone going to wise up when I say 'JustAskin does not ask questions because he doesn't know')George, your unrequested response was like, 'Of course God is Spirit'.George,…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 25 2010,18:36)Speaking of my Mother I asked her what she thought 'spiritual body meant' and she said it's a complete person… we are a spiritual body… we have a soul, a spirit, and a body, so are a spiritual body.And nearly all other Christan people will agree with this…  that Jesus was raised from the dead in the f…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:22)Pierre,An interpretation is not a rewriting.  It is just an understanding of what is written.  I am hopping to test that understanding to see if it comes from God or not.   This is what we are taught to do as it is testing the Spirit.  It is also a way of learning.kerwinI concur with Pierre, it is not you tha…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,14:53)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,11:53)In order to be our Scarifies His body had to stay dead, and stay in the grave, because it was that body that took on our sins….Hi Irene,Okay.  So was it a NEW flesh body or his new spiritual body that Jesus was raised from the dead in?mikeMikeJesus was a spirit being…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2010,04:07)Georg………I am not trying to confuse anyone.  Your believe Spirit (just means) “invisible” is in error , spirit is far more then just meaning invisible. Spirit is invisible though that is true, Just as thoughts are invisible but yet thought drive our whole being . So they are FAR MORE THE (JUST)…[Read more]

Shimmer, this is not fromthe JW, which I too found on the Internet. Noticed the Scriptures….Ransom theory of atonementFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search Part of a series on Atonement inChristianity Christus VictorGovernmentalMoral influencePenal substitutionRansomSatisfactionSubstitutionaryLimitedUnlimited v • d •…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 25 2010,12:57)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 25 2010,18:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,06:22)Quote (Irene @ Dec. 25 2010,05:34)Mike!  Since Scriptures say that first the earthly body and then the spiritual body, I would think Jesus was a spirit after His resurrection.  I agree with you since it is scriptural.  But the sp…[Read more]

Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 25 2010,12:09)Google the words which you spoke….ransom sacrifice…what comes up ? I knew it…. I knew I had heard it before….Jehovah's witness and Watchtower.So, you don't believe they have no truths, is that what you are saying??? I didn't get that from them either. My dear Husband told me so….. He has studied…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 25 2010,06:22)Quote (Irene @ Dec. 25 2010,05:34)Mike!  Since Scriptures say that first the earthly body and then the spiritual body, I would think Jesus was a spirit after His resurrection.  I agree with you since it is scriptural.  But the spiritual bodies Paul was talking about was the ones that would be received by th…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 25 2010,08:32)Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,06:54)Hi Mike,Glad to see you are relenting…good.Anyway it comes.Wouldn't it have been much easier just to have done so from the start…?Oh, ok…you had to 'put your hand into the holes' in your arguments before you could realise that they were real…Now, just one more…[Read more]

Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 25 2010,05:56)Mike,What is a 'Spiritual body'.Mike, if the local Pastor adopts me into his faith, does he become my Spiritual Father?Is he a physical Father, gave birth to me…no!Is he, then, a Spirit Father?…how is he 'in the Spirit' and still a man?Mike, does the Holy Spirit have a body?Why do you think it is called a…[Read more]