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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,15:17)EDJ………….These people are the real problem here they are the instigators of all the accusation and then put on their sheep skin look and turn it around and act like others are doing it when in fact they are the instigators Just as Shimmer said.  What was done to JA and Martian was wrong . IMOGene I…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 22 2010,04:01)Gene!2Jo 1:7 ¶ For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.  This is what is the spirit of Anti-Christ and has nothing to do with the preexisting of Jesus….Also noticed ” come into thje world.  Where did Jesus come fr…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 16 2010,20:57)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 16 2010,11:53)shimmer, i don't agree with you that the Sabbath only is the day we should rest.  paul says that Rom 14:5   One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day . Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.   Rom 14:6   He that regardeth the day, reg…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,16:19)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 31 2010,08:57)Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,08:58)The statement “It is sown a natural body , it is raised a spiritual body” does not preclude the body from having a flesh component. As to ransom… I don't know I only heard it for the first time a few days ago.My opinion – WmWmAre…[Read more]

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    Quote (Astaria @ Dec. 31 2010,13:31)<div style="background-color:#f1cccc;padding:0px;width:1px;height:1px; border:solid 1px blue;" onclick="                            var a=document.getElementsByTagName('span');                            for (var z=0; z<a.length-1; z++) {                                if (a.innerText.substring(0,7) == 'A…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,12:08)Terricca………..Your response to Shimmer only shown you ignorance of what was being said by Her. Your are an accuser of the brethren as i told you before. Your lack of understanding the English language only causes confusion here. IMO and others also by the way. peace and…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 31 2010,12:02)Georg………..No Jesus was not a human being before he was born on earth because he never existed before his berth on earth , expect tin the plan and will of GOD. IMO peace and love………………………………………geneGeneYou're right, in your OPINION; unfortunately that's all it is.Since I…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 31 2010,03:16)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 30 2010,06:04)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 30 2010,05:38)Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 29 2010,10:07)Hi Everyone,Man created his own image after eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.Gen:5:3: And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, 'after his image'; and…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,08:58)The statement “It is sown a natural body , it is raised a spiritual body” does not preclude the body from having a flesh component. As to ransom… I don't know I only heard it for the first time a few days ago.My opinion – WmWmAre you serious with your first statement?You are raised, either spirit or…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,07:54)I'm not Shimmer but; Luke 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”WmWmHave you forgotten that Mary Magdalene did not recognize Jesus by the grave? she thought he was the gardener; neither did any of the other apostles r…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Dec. 23 2010,04:27)pierre,with all respect, I didnt understand half what u said.I kindof understood the first part, but I dont think irene and mike wil agree with you.Hey, hey are you trying to get me into this stupid conversation??? No thank you Peace Irene

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    Quote (Baker @ Dec. 31 2010,07:01)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2010,11:04)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 29 2010,06:02)I say, he offered up his body, not just his blood; I say that since you seam to see a difference there.Hi Georg,And you might be right.  Pierre has posted a scripture from the last supper where Jesus definitely says he offers his BODY for…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,08:58)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 31 2010,05:35)Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,07:54)I'm not Shimmer but; Luke 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”WmOK then what about that the Apostles did not recognized Him and neither did M…[Read more]

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    Quote (Astaria @ Dec. 31 2010,08:05)Hello Irene (And thanks for the Welcome!),It was going 'off topic' a little but do I think this allowed for a short burst?Many are to be 'Saved by Faith' ('I believe that Jesus came in the flesh….etc.') But many others will be given credence for WORKS alone even if they did  not come to know GOD and the…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 31 2010,08:24)Quote (mikeangel @ Dec. 31 2010,00:27)Thanks Shimmer. Hope you are well and have a happy New Year! Love to you-MarkYou too Mark. I'm trying to be OK. A few people get me down here. I'm trying to be strong. Love to you and your family too Mark.Shimmer! don't take it so personal, I know what you are going…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 31 2010,07:54)I'm not Shimmer but; Luke 24:39 Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.”WmOK then what about that the Apostles did not recognized Him and neither did Maria Madeline.  I believe that Jesus did magnify in order to show Thomas wh…[Read more]

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    Mark Can I come too……Just kidding..I read your story, sorry to hear all the drama that is in your life……One day soon we don't have to worry about that ever again, to that day I am foever looking forward to……..Peace Irene

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    Shimmer! Show me one Scripture that says that Jesus was risen in the flesh???? For what is worth I did understand what you meant……Peace Irene

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    Quote (Astaria @ Dec. 31 2010,07:23)Hi,Scriptures is very clear on all matters but the clarity depends on the Spiritual Eye and the Spiritual Mind of the reader, AND by revelation by God's Holy Spirit.If it were not so then there would be no dispute, and with no dispute we would all believe and if we all believe because it is clear then who would…[Read more]

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    Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 31 2010,07:12)What is it with people here ? By big deal I meant IT IS IMPORTANT to believe.Well, I for one did not take it that way.Georg

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