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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 11 2011,07:53)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 11 2011,01:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 11 2011,05:02)HiThe problem with the “antitrins” that believe Jesus is “a god” in John 1:1 is they should either believe he is “The True God”, One with the Father or become a Unitarian that believes he is not “a god” at all which would mean…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 11 2011,01:41)Irene………..Those near death experiences have been explained by science , as when a person is starting to die their brain begins to disconnect and it starts with the eyes first and that causes the light that they describe . I would not put to much trust in those things , the thing that happened to me…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 11 2011,05:02)HiThe problem with the “antitrins” that believe Jesus is “a god” in John 1:1 is they should either believe he is “The True God”, One with the Father or become a Unitarian that believes he is not “a god” at all which would mean they would not believe in his pre-existence.I think the Unitarians have a…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 11 2011,04:54)Hi IreneQuote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,11:41)You like to make Jesus God, so you think Heb is equal to Jehovah God,The scriptures call Jesus “God”. Irene, you are contradicting yourself because you say Jesus is 'a god” yet there is “Only One True God”. Then you accuse me of making Jesus God. John said Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 11 2011,04:41)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,11:41)Keith!  It says LORD in capital letters and that is Jehovah God.  There is no other God and LORD in capital letters.IreneThe litteral Hebrew and Greek text do not have capitol letters.The capitol letters were added by the translators. So if you accept the scriptures t…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 11 2011,02:19)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,01:40)SF, Keith and Francis!Deu 4:35   Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he God; none else beside him.  Deu 6:4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God one LORD:Hi IreneWe believe all the scriptures that you post but none of them say Jesus is not Go…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 11 2011,02:18)Quote (Baker @ Dec. 21 2010,13:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 21 2010,12:27)Hi Irene and Pierre,We should all save our breath when it comes to Gene and the pre-existent topic.  When someone will go as far as INSISTING that John 1:14 says “the Word CAME TO BE IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH”, when that's not what…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 11 2011,02:26)Georg……….Why not read what scripture say the seven eyes (ARE) before you start to talk about them , i guess you use a different bible then the rest of us , but according to MY BIBLE it say “THE SEVEN EVES (ARE) THE SEVEN SPIRIT OF GOD”, now you can ridicule that all you want to but that does not…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2011,00:09)Pierre: Gladly, John 3:16 and John 17:14 to 24  and Psalm 23 and Psalm 91:7 are a great start. Bless you, TKTimJohn 3:16 is right, but don't fool yourself into believing, once saved, always saved, rather try to figure out what James meant by,Jam 2:24   Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and n…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 16 2010,16:07)Hi David,I asked you this question three times so far,and your answers have been clear as MUD!You have now dodged it three times total.For the record will you actually answer the question…Is it not true that your organization has taught YOU(david)that current non-members of your organization are not Christians?Ed…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Jan. 08 2011,07:53)meant to say georgeSF  I just made a post in Mike vs, Francis tread.  Look it up.  God is a title…..and yes, there are other Gods 1Cr 8:5   For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)   1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Father, of wh…[Read more]

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    SF, Keith and Francis!Deu 4:35   Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he God; none else beside him.  Deu 6:4 ¶ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God one LORD:  1Cr 8:5   For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)   1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Fa…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2011,11:28)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 10 2011,07:17)These are bodies of light, that can either be nude or clothed: They seem to be of a somewhat “see-through” nature or even invisible at times, With these bodies the soul can go through the solid dimensions of this world, through walls, and ceilings, and travel at the speed of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeangel @ Jan. 10 2011,00:54)Thank you Irene. I know and believe that. This is just right in my face, especially when I go downtown or have to drive by “graceland”. People the world over come here for it, and some even term it a “pilgrimage”, and the paper has referred to them as “pilgrims”. In the paper today, the miner, through…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 03 2011,02:51)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 02 2011,19:09)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 01 2011,10:04)EDJ……….Why shouldn't he come (IN) the FLESH , He went (IN) the FLESH right and He said He was FLESH and Bone right. what part of that don't you agree with. Did He not say when the SON OF MAN RETURNS. SO he must still be SON…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 10 2011,07:52)Irene …………..Spiritual mean a Spirit controlled “BODY” not a SPIRIT BODY because a spirit is not a body of any kind, if a man is SPIRITUALLY MINDED,  DOES THAT ALSO MEAN HE IS A SPIRIT BEING OF SOME KIND. NO IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT, NEITHER DOES A SPIRITUAL BODY MEAN IT IS A BODY COMPOSED OF SPIRIT,…[Read more]

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    I thought we stood alone in this, but this what came up when I googled Heaven NetSpiritual Bodies and Resurrection Bodies”Jesus answered and said unto him, Are you a master of Israel, and you don't know these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have…[Read more]

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    To All!  I have done some research of Spirit Beings.  I believe that in order to hold God's Holy Spirit in us and Angels we need a body.  Otherwise the Spirit of God, will flood around in space, that is not so…. We also have to remember that there is only one Holy Spirit.  I don't think that the Spirit in man stands alone.  he would never unde…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,20:57)Georg,You mention God teaches us that angels can be invisible but while this angel was invisible to Balaam it was visible to his donkey.I saw four points in this scripture where I believe God is teaching us something about the body of angels.  One thing I find by combining two of those points is that one…[Read more]

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    To All! We should all watch what we say. I don't like the personal attacks no matter who makes it. We are the Church. It is not the building that makes the Church. Christ being the Head of us and the Church. When He comes again He will marry His Church. Who will that be? I am hopeful that we all will be the ones standing in front of the…[Read more]

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