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    Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 18 2011,21:11)Irene: Are you saying that that in your opinion, the New Testament, where Jesus makes no distinction between Jew,Gentile,Bond,Free,Male,or Female or any person that believes, is actually a covenant that witholds the spirit from certain people, IE: Israel or Jews? How about races of people? Colors? I believe…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 19 2011,12:10)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 19 2011,18:34)Pierre!  The question that I still have is that yes, those who will overcome will enter His rest.  However not all will be Spirit beings….Here is the next about the meek. Who are the meek?  All those who are like the beggar. Only if your name is written in  the book of lif…[Read more]

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    Pierre!  The question that I still have is that yes, those who will overcome will enter His rest.  However not all will be Spirit beings….Here is the next about the meek. Who are the meek?  All those who are like the beggar. Only if your name is written in  the book of life, will you receive eternal life.  This parable shows that the rich man…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,20:22)Irene,You may agree with Gene but you do not agree with the following two scriptures who speak of the ghosts of martyrs that will come to life at the time set by God.  There is no mention of ghost demons in scripture.  There is mention of ghosts; which are the souls of the dead.  Jesus speaks of ghosts in the pa…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,01:33)Quote (Tim Kraft @ Jan. 18 2011,00:58)Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 17 2011,07:50)Now the thing is I have seen these things (love, peace etc) in people who also deny the Lord ? Who also try to teach…or try to lead people the wrong way ?Anyone can appear as an angel of light, just as any poet or writer can write amazing…[Read more]

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    Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,21:20)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,15:00)Adam,Man is born with a spirit.  Is that spirit the spirit of righteousness?Have you studied these things in scripture or do you instead choose to take the opinions of others as true without testing them?I have asked you to look up things in scripture and yet to receive evidence…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2011,23:04)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,21:33) Good compilation of verses to support Jesus' words as God's words. I wonder what does it mean to say that 'word became flesh' if Jesus was speaking God's words than his own? I think he is a mere spokesperson rather I can say he is the mouth of God.Peace to youAdamYou are…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2011,02:16)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,13:46)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,10:39)Speaking of Jesus.Col 1:15   Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:  Col 1:16   For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be th…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 19 2011,01:24)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,13:44)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,03:07)Mike………….Wrong, it is not my opinion There are Seven Spirit of GOD.Gene,It IS your OPINION that God was talking to His seven spirits in Genesis 1:26.  That's what I was saying.  Can't you read?  You do this crap all th…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,13:54)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,13:45)Yes, while we where at Olive Garden the rest of our Family set it all up.How cool!  :)  That shows a lot of love for them to go to such lengths and planning!Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,13:45)We have pictures on Face book, come join us…. Its a lot of fun….some of our F…[Read more]

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    Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 18 2011,14:53)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,01:49)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,01:20)Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,15:00)Adam,Man is born with a spirit.  Is that spirit the spirit of righteousness?Have you studied these things in scripture or do you instead choose to take the opinions of others as true without testing them?I have asked you to look up things in scripture and yet to receive evidence you have.kerwinMan is NOT born…[Read more]

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    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 18 2011,00:54)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 18 2011,00:45)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2011,08:54)Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 13 2011,14:33)Thanks for all your thought provoking responses on this New thread. In fact I too believe what you all posted above but I am not convinced of what the N.T states especially the Epistles on Original sin and…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,15:23)Georg,The only question I did not answer that you asked is what I believe Jesus was before he became human.  He was a plan within the mind of God that came to be when he was conceived in his mother's womb.I felt I had that point clear in other cases but perhaps you were not aware of those other posts.  Sorry if I…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 18 2011,15:28)Georg,I made two points in responce to the post you state you believe I had not read.The first is that body and soul and not the same since they are mention as two parts of a whole.The second is that human beings particpate in the devine nature by living according to the Holy Spirit and so much the angels of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 18 2011,10:20)Quote (Baker @ Jan. 17 2011,23:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 17 2011,12:37)He's calling the wrong person for help anyway.  t8 seems to agree that 1 Cor 15 is talking about the bodies that those of heaven have.Hi Irene and Pierre,I haven't talked with you folks much lately.  I hope all is well with both of you a…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 13 years, 10 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,10:13)Adam …………Don't get discouraged by the insults of the ignorant brother.peace and love to you and yours………………………………geneGene!  You should talk, you have said I have the Spirit of Anti-Christ and that is nothing to you.  I have asked you and Adam to explain all those S…[Read more]

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    Marty, you are right, these Scriptures are hard to understand. Jesus gave us this parable in order to show us that being selfish and greedy will not be rewarded. The beggar waqs meek and He will inherit the earth…. The last part of that parable will be next……Thank you for your understanding…Peace Irene

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    Pierre! In the Millennium Christ will teach only the truth. To think that only the second resurrected Saints will be there is for what? they already know the truth…. You don't believe that people that will produce and have Babies? And what about those Babies that were aborted? They will not be there? When will they have a chance to hear the…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,11:19)Georg…………..I use Intellect, you use mind, Some thoughts, but it is all produced by what we called Spirit. I put intellect next to spirit to force the text to be clearer, because many think Spirit is a PERSON or Angel of some kind.  But i do agree it (spirit) is in the Mind. And (IT) Gods Spirit…[Read more]

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