WJ  Jesus is not Almighty God.  And Jesus is not LORD, but Lord/  Through out the Old Testament, you will find that Jehovah God is LORD>  While Jesus in the new Testament is Lord, in all small letters.  1Cr 8:6   But to us one God, the Father, of whom all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom all things, and we by him.  This…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 04 2011,03:27)Hi Irene,   I believe that “The Word” mentioned in John 1:1-14 is the Christed mind. The Christed mind first came in the flesh in Jesus Something. Don't know what Mary and Joseph's last name is. This why he is called Jesus Christ or Christ Jesus. He was anointed with the “The Word”. He is the anointed one of…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ April 02 2011,23:33)Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2011,22:14)Karamarie,There is nothing wrong with speaking in mysticisms if you are speaking according to the Spirit of God.We are speaking of the false teachings which John addresses in his writings.Here are the scriptures.  Gene seems to be using mainly 1 John 4:3 though he may be using…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 03 2011,23:36)Hi Irene,   You are blessed to have a loving and kind husband. Interpretation and debate on the metaphoric and symbolic language used in John's book of revelation have been going on for 2000 years give or take. There are many different viewpoints on this subject of discussion. As to your assertion:Quote But…[Read more]

t8 I think you first should pray about this. Secondly then use YOUR idea, how YOU see it. You are the owner of this site. I have seen were members avoid questions put to them, or they answer in a sarcastic way….Peace and Love Irene

Quote (seekingtruth @ April 03 2011,10:53)I believe the best description is selflessness, putting a higher value on another prior to our desires, wants, and sometimes even our needs. My opinion – WmWith that I agree. That is the kind of love that Jesus has.. And God loved so the world that He gave his only begotten Son, so we will have eternal…[Read more]

Quote (Paladin @ April 02 2011,18:18)It has come to my attention that there is a little square under my name in every post I publish. Is there a significance attatched to it I should know about? It has been there since the first post I made back on 17, June 2009, when I posted a fiction story about the ancient campfire, found on page 21 of the…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 03 2011,09:42)Irene,You wrote:Quote The Spirit of Anti-Christ is if you deny Jesus COMING in the flesh.  I do not deny that.  Therefore I DO NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF ANTI-CHRIST…….PERIOD.  And I do ot want to hear that from you again….IrenePS Then t8 and Mike are too, which they are not.Could you please explain what yo…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 03 2011,00:26)Hi Irene,   If the Word of God is Jesus God would have had it stated plainlly. Not by cross-referencing scripture and infering such. Do you read my posts? Why are you so hung up on Jesus's blood? Jesus died a bloody death to fulfill prophecy. Do you think he want to be remembered for his death or for the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 03 2011,06:02)Irene……> so please tell us if you don't Believe Jesus preexisted as some kind of being as the Gnostic's did. Please tell us Jesus was not sent from GOD from a Preexistence existence then If indeed you truely believe Jesus came in His existence as a Flesh and Blood Human Being.  Fact is you believe He…[Read more]

This is what Ant-Christs are1Jo 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1Jo 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: . 1Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that of…[Read more]

This I had posted i the preexisting tread i copied it herePosted: April 02 2011,03:31 EDIT QUOTEGnostic then and now….taken from the internet. There are several Article on this. I looked for one that explained what they believed what Jesus was to them….here is what they believe….Christ: The role of the redeemer in Gnostic belief is…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 02 2011,23:33)Hi Irene,   I find it amazing that you don't believe you are in the kingdom of God right now.                                               With Love and Respect,                                                      WispringWrong, the kingdom is in our Hearts, but that is not what you said. You were talking a…[Read more]

Gene! You said in the above post whch kerwin brought over from the preexusting tread. Irene………..You do not believe Jesus came into existence as a Human being , you believe he was a there as a disguised Past existing being just as the Gnostic's did, the only difference is that you think he was “Morphed” into a human being from a past…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ April 02 2011,22:14)Karamarie,There is nothing wrong with speaking in mysticisms if you are speaking according to the Spirit of God.We are speaking of the false teachings which John addresses in his writings.Here are the scriptures.  Gene seems to be using mainly 1 John 4:3 though he may be using the others as well.  Quote 1 John 4…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 02 2011,18:55)Hi Irene,   This has explained to you before in the incarnation thread. I shall try again. When Jesus died and was raised into heaven to be the King of kings, and Lord of lords. That moment in time was the beginning of the new heaven and the new earth.Quote Revelation 21:1And I saw a new heaven and a new…[Read more]

kerwin look i the preexisting tread again, I got it up for you. That is where Gene calls me Anti_Christ….Irene

Quote (Baker @ April 02 2011,03:13)Quote (Baker @ Mar. 25 2011,18:42)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 22 2010,04:54)Irene………..You do not believe Jesus came into existence as a Human being , you believe he was a there as a disguised Past existing being just as the Gnostic's did, the only difference is that you think he was “Morphed” into a human…[Read more]

Quote (karmarie @ April 01 2011,21:30)Quote (kerwin @ April 01 2011,23:26)I have no reached the goal because I am an unfinished master piece being worked on by God.  I am not condemning God or the pace he works and so I am not condemning myself for being unfinished.God’s love is displayed in me in that he is patiently working on me to eradicate my…[Read more]

Quote (Wispring @ April 02 2011,14:26)Hi Irene and anyone else interested,   I am going to communicate to you my best reasonable argument of logic as to why Jesus did not pre-exist. First, I am going to qualify whom I am talking about when I say Jesus. This is Jesus the man. The fleshy bit of Jesus. This includes his functioning brain tissue.…[Read more]