David!  In Hebrew 1:8 and John 1:1, The Word of God is called God.  I understand that God is a title and many in ancient times were called God.  Jehovah God is the Almighty God and The Word is the Mighty God.  There are many then that were called Mighty Gods.  We also have to understand that by Jesus own words, His Father is greater then He is.…[Read more]

Gene!  I agree with t8 and the Professor, The Word of God in John 1:1 is not the only Scripture that shows us that it is or became Jesus.  Rev, 19:13-16 I have written this out before, yet you insist that it is your way or no way. Tell me who else fits that description?   He had a robe on dipped in blood and His name is The Word of God.  In ver…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 23 2010,06:28)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14 2010,19:26)spirit beings can't die, remember?Hi Georg,I almost always interpret scripture the same was as you and t8 seem to, and agree with what you've posted to Gene here.But can you tell me which scriptures tell you that spirit creatures cannot die?peace and love,mikeMike!  Georg…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 20 2010,15:29)Irene,You are perhaps answering the question posed by this thread when you state your belief that Jesus gave up much when he choose to become a human being.  What did he give up?He is presently King of everything on earth and in heaven and from what you seem to imply has always been.  He showed quite a bit of a…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2010,11:15)http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704111704575355311122648100.htmlQuote from the above page is in blue below.'How can we stop the oil gusher?” may have been the question of the summer for most Americans. Yet for many evangelical pastors and leaders, the leaking well is nothing compared to the threat posed…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,06:53)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 15 2010,04:04)Georg………So show (ONE) clear scripture that say this “JESUS EXISTED AS A BEING LONG BEFORE HIS BERTH” and i will admit you are right, not some  ambiguous scripture that can be taken different ways , but a clear specific scripture that say what you are saying.  I h…[Read more]

ProfessorYou haven't commented on these scriptures yet, would you like to do it now?Rom. 6:23    “ For the wages of sin is death…”Death is the opposite of life; you stop breathing, and you stop living.Ps. 104:29   “Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled, thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.”Eccl. 3:19   “For that whi…[Read more]

Quote (barley @ Aug. 21 2010,11:47)Quote (martian @ Aug. 18 2010,03:58)Gene,There is a possibility I may have to go into the hospital again for a few weeks. I may not be on here for a while. You nad barley might be on your own for a while. I will see if my lap top is working or I can get a signal in the hospital room. Don't know for…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 18 2010,23:44)Good Morning Georg,Notice that the Paradise Lazarus was in was with Abraham. The Hebrews had the two places of waiting for the Judgment with one being called Paradise.How do you come up with “Lazarus” was not the one Jesus raised from the dead.  Look at the complete conversation and then look at Jesus' later…[Read more]

Quote (Baker @ Aug. 20 2010,06:26)ProfessorWhat I said about Lazarus, goes for Abraham, and the thief too.Read this, Hbr 11:1 ¶ Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.   Hbr 11:2   For by it the elders obtained a good report.  It begins with Abel;Hbr 11:4 ¶ By faith Abel…Abraham is mentioned too.  Hbr…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 21 2010,14:42)Hi Kathi:The scripture states that Jesus is a man, no, not just any man, he is the Son of the living God, but nevertheless he is a man.  That is what the scripture states, and so, please do not try to tell me different than that.I know that no man born of the sperm of man has ever obeyed God without sin even…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 21 2010,11:54)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 21 2010,11:36)Ed!  Go by Scriptures and not numbers, and people might believe you…. I for one don't care about your system of understanding at all…… IreneHi Irene,You talk out of both sides of your mouth; do people here believe what you say?Do you believe what “I” say when I leave the…[Read more]

Quote (selah @ Jan. 23 2010,16:29)Hello Kerwin,Regarding the oneness or unity of God, let us each admit that depending on which passage in Isaiah we examine, the one “with” and the one without, each causes a problem for us to prove the point we wish to make.Let us return to the proof text we started with … Deut 6:4, as it is quite clear in its…[Read more]

To all! The Word of God in John 1:1 is not the Almighty God, it is who became Jesus. God never has been seen or heard. John 5:37 The Word of God however is who became Jesus. The reason I can say that because in Rev. 19:13 it says thisHe was clothed in a robe dipped in blood and His name is called The Word of God. verse 14 And the armies in…[Read more]

Ed! Go by Scriptures and not numbers, and people might believe you…. I for one don't care about your system of understanding at all…… Irene

Gene! If that is the case then you have to deny a lot of Scriptures. I simple do not think that all of them are wrong…. Then you might as well trow the Bible away, because the translators just wanted what they did. And BTW it would not help their trinity doctrine at all. So your theory does not stand…. When Jesus said that He has come to…[Read more]

Gene!  I am reading this and laughing, you just want to make it your way no matter what!!! Well my friend it does not go that way.  It says also that He was the firstborn of all creation.   Jehovah God is telling us that we should go under Jesus, there it is save/  He died for us, so we can live.  That however does not erase that He was in  Hea…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 19 2010,03:06)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 18 2010,08:46)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 18 2010,22:29)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,22:16)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,21:37)Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 15 2010,07:40)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 15 2010,07:34)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 15 2010,07:20)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 14…[Read more]

Quote (942767 @ Aug. 20 2010,08:15)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 19 2010,14:34)Marty I was just reading your post, just one point, you said that The Word of God is God;s Word, so that Word became flesh?  That makes no sense at all.  Jehovah God has never been heard or seen, only He that has been with Him from the beginning has seen Him, The Word of God t…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Aug. 20 2010,12:10)What happened to Enoch and elijah? Where did they go and where are they now?Read Hebrews, chapter 11.Georg