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    Quote (martian @ Sep. 02 2010,02:49)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,06:44)martianDoctrines don't change hearts, surgeons do; scripture is supposed to change your mind, your thinking and behavior.You must not go by any churches doctrine, you have to rely on the word of God, the Bible.Doctrines don't show you the path, the Bible does.God does not need…[Read more]

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    Professor”””Georg,YOU SAID: Jesus was our ransom, his flesh body that is, had that body been resurrected, it would have made the ransom void, and our sins would not be forgiven.I don't know where you get your ideas from. You bring up many Scriptures yet seem to negate them with your opinions. It is as if you read the Scriptures and then read…[Read more]

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    Hello! This is going to be a very short post. If the Holy Spirit is a person, would He then not be His Father???? I have asked this before and got no answer. Hope you WJ answer me this time….Peace Irene

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    Baker replied to the topic John 17:5 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 31 2010,11:06)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,02:08)Mike has a good understanding and He also has nerves of steel.  I hate it when they make it personal.  He has been called all kinds of names, and keeps on posting… My hat of to Mike…..Peace IreneHi Irene,It is because of your constantly ignored posts in the “…[Read more]

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    THINE IS THE GLORY1 Thine is the glory, risen conquering Son. Endless is the victory, Thou o'er death has won. Angels in bright raiment rolled the stone away, Kept the folded grave-cloth where Thy body lay.2 Lo Jesus meets us, risen from the tomb, Lovingly He greets us, scatters fear and gloom. Let His Church with gladness, hymns…[Read more]

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    And we are on our way to become one world government, all the singnes are there…..Irene

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    Quote (barley @ Aug. 31 2010,13:12)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,06:44)martianDoctrines don't change hearts, surgeons do; scripture is supposed to change your mind, your thinking and behavior.You must not go by any churches doctrine, you have to rely on the word of God, the Bible.Doctrines don't show you the path, the Bible does.God does not need…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Sep. 01 2010,05:46)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 31 2010,07:11)Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,05:01)All the debates center on proving that Christ pre-existed, I want to know what purpose it serves. Did God do it so that we would have something to debate? How does this doctrine work?  What does it do for the believer? How does it help me…[Read more]

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    ProfessorIn order to understand scriptures, you have to know the plan of God for man kind.Look at this scripture, and tell me, how can that be true? Eze 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 30 2010,19:43)wow everyone here is above the age of 50?Im only 21…. I feel Young here.I dont know anyone in the USA that is more than 60.You run into people here and there, but i never really KNOWN someone to be above that age.Its strange…..Oh, I feel so sorry for you, you Spring Chicken…. :D  :D  :D well We are l…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Aug. 26 2010,15:55)To all that seek the truth,I have a mystery that I would propose for you to think on.  This mystery involves interpreting 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and some surrounding scriptures so I have included it for your use.  It is also about the Garden of Eden.1 Corinthians 15:50-54(NIV) reads:Quote I declare to you, b…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Aug. 29 2010,03:36)Scripture says that sins against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven.Mt 12:32 –  “Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.What are those sins?First of all let’s di…[Read more]

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    Quote (martian @ Aug. 15 2010,05:01)All the debates center on proving that Christ pre-existed, I want to know what purpose it serves. Did God do it so that we would have something to debate? How does this doctrine work?  What does it do for the believer? How does it help me along the journey to become like Christ?What kind of fruit does it…[Read more]

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    martianDoctrines don't change hearts, surgeons do; scripture is supposed to change your mind, your thinking and behavior.You must not go by any churches doctrine, you have to rely on the word of God, the Bible.Doctrines don't show you the path, the Bible does.God does not need protection, we do.Again, doctrines don't give you hope, the Bible…[Read more]

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    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 17 2010,17:19)To All……….Luke 24:37…..> But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed that they had seen a spirit…38…> And He said unto the Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts 39…> Behold mu hands and my feet, that it is (I) Myself: handle me, and see; For or because (A…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 30 2010,16:13)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 30 2010,15:36)you can't eve prove what beginning Paul was talking about was it His beginning on Earth,Hi Gene,Why don't you just keep the opinions and slams to yourself, okay?  All they do is show that you can't answer with scripture, so you must try to attack or belittle me…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic John 17:5 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Guest @ Aug. 13 2010,19:01)In John 17:5 it clearly states that by Jesus own words, He had a glory with His Father in Heaven before the world was.  We do know that He is a Spirit Being now, and that is what He was before…Many will say that Christ went to Heaven Body and Soul.  We have however Scripture that says that flesh and blood c…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic John 8:38 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Mike when they cannot answer a simple question , then they take up with trying to belittle you, have you noticed that? Gene has no clue what He is talking about. All is INTERLECT TO HIM… A bunch of nonsense….. You can't make them understand, when you blind you just can't see……I wonder who the monkeys are here…..But that is nothing new…[Read more]

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    Baker replied to the topic John 8:38 in the forum Truth or Tradition 15 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 25 2010,12:08)Terricca………..The way heaven net thinks is unimportant to me, The Truth is what Matter > As far as being Here i have been here many many many more Years then you Have by far. You would be better of trying to Use Sound scripture to back up you dogmas instead of going around being an accuser of  the…[Read more]

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    Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 30 2010,06:58)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 27 2010,23:54)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 27 2010,10:24)Quote (Baker @ Aug. 27 2010,02:59)Quote (SimplyForgiven @ Aug. 27 2010,08:04)Here is what is going to help with this discussion about 43:10CONTEXT CONTEXT CONTEX9Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be…[Read more]

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