Quote (martian @ Sep. 10 2010,06:49)Mike, I have not read this thread for some time and have no intention of doing so. I do not need to debate scripture with you. All I need do is remember that your methods are dishonest or shrouded in secrecy to see that I can no more trust your interpretations then I could trust a convicted child molester to run…[Read more]

Gene!  John 17:5 states that Jesus had a glory with the Father before the world was and He is saying that He want to go back to that glory….. that is what John 17:5 is saying…. and He emptied Himself and became like a Servant and became a man….. so what glory is He now?  To that He went back to…. John 1and Rev, 19:13-19 shows us also wh…[Read more]

Gene and Pierre!  It seems that you both are accusing each other of wrong doing.  Is it not wise just to go by Scriptures and stop the personal attack? Even though there are Scriptures like Math. 15:9 do so only to some that teach other doctrines that are not according to Scriptures….. only go by Scriptures……. did you miss me?  I was in th…[Read more]

Gene!  All I am going to say to you and then I will never debate with you again.  There is no sense in debating with someone who is blind to the Scriptures that I find sacred.  You simple have to do away with many Scriptures to belief what you do, and I for one will never do so… Calling us Anti-Christ MMMMM You better look in to a mi…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 06 2010,08:25)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,07:11)There is only one Scripture that I know of were He is called the Almighty one and that is in Rev.Hi Irene,There is no scripture where Jesus is called “Almighty”.  None at all.mikeMike! Yes there is !!! I am trying to find that Scripture and I will get back with you about…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 07 2010,08:40)hi Georgyou are mostly right ,and i can agree with it ,but let first straight things out of the statue;;;head-1—- chest -2—–belly and thighs-3—–legs and feet -4-that itDan;2-33so the legs and the feet's with the toes are ROME.so what you say ??PierreNo, as you can see, the feet and toes are mentioned…[Read more]

PierreConstantine may have given the church her name, but that is all.It was after that, that the church fathers, bishops, began in earnest to spread the “gospel”.In Italy bishops were also called “father”, it was in 533 when Justinian, emperor of the west and the east, decided that only the bishop of Rome should hold the title “POPE”, aaaand,…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 06 2010,07:56)Hello Irene,I posted another thread to explain WHY I asked everyone to do their own word search.Since you said you didn't know “HOW” to do a word search I thought I was “helping” by giving you step by step instructions.  Knowing how to do this will help here or anytime that you need to look something up and…[Read more]

Quote (martian @ Sep. 07 2010,02:28)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,13:53)Quote (martian @ Sep. 06 2010,00:19)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 05 2010,11:45)Quote (martian @ Sep. 05 2010,08:20)George,You have very keenly avoided the question. You say your teaching of preexistence gives you hope?  How does it do that?Where did I say that? Jesus gives me hope in…[Read more]

Quote (chosenone @ Sep. 07 2010,05:18)Hi Irene,  you say….QUOTE]He then gave us the new Commandments in Math. 22:37-40You make a commom mistake, His (JESUS) teaching were for Israel, see Matt.15:24  …Now He, answering, said, “I was not commissioned except for the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”   This is an example of what Paul said in 2T…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Sep. 06 2010,15:26)Quote (Baker @ Sep. 06 2010,20:37)Pierre”””can you explain ;if Christ was resurrected with the same body and features that is ,WHY IS IT THAT THE ONES SO CLOSE TO HIM DID NOT RECONGNIZE HIM??”””Good question, I have ask it several times, haven't gotten an answer yet.Georghi GeorgI will try ,but it will take a…[Read more]

PierreHow can you believe it was Constantine?Nero would be a better candidate, he was the one that persecuted the Jews and the Christians, and many emperors after him; Constantine on the other hand “STOPPED” the persecution, and allowed Christians to worship freely.Now compare this with the Roman Catholic Church. The pope took over control of what…[Read more]

PierreYou are quite right, the iron kingdom, Rome, did brake all others into pieces but, it was all iron, not iron mixed with clay, those are the ten (all) toes (kings), other nations. Is not the UN made up of all the nations of the world?Rome, the eastern leg, was eventually conquered by the Muslim Turks in the middle of the 15th Century.Let me…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 07 2010,03:45)OK, a new author for today…Theophilus.  He has captured my attention and is easier to read than some early Christian fathers.  Following is an excerpt about God creating through a helper…His Word which was begotten before the ages.Quote CHAPTER X.—THE WORLD CREATED BY GOD THROUGH THE WORD.And first, the…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 06 2010,03:05)Mike, Irene, David, the rest…….What you don't realize is those things you are mentioning about people forming false teaching had started way back two thousand years ago , and you are now completely immersed into those false teachings. The Apostate Churches are those who perverted the words of GOD way…[Read more]

PierreI'm not sure why I stopped responding, so I do it now.The Statue, although it specifically represents the four kingdoms mentioned in Dan. 7:4-7, it does more than that; it represents “ALL” of mans kingdoms/governments. What was the beast that “was” and is “not”, and appeared out of nowhere (the bottomless pit) Rev. 17:8)?What was it that the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2010,13:51)Quote (Elizabeth @ May 12 2010,01:38)I'm bringing up this topic again because, I wonder if any one else is interested in what “the great falling away” means? and who the real “man of lawlessness” is?This was, after all, not a debate between me and terraricca. Georghi georgi do not do debates because it is…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Aug. 07 2010,06:35)Quote (chosenone @ Aug. 04 2010,15:37)To All.   My opinion if I may… It seems there is much confusion of what the scriptures really say.  To start with, there are many translations of the bible, and when examined closely, there are various differences to one another.  How are we to know which is correct?  …[Read more]

Quote (Maranatha @ Nov. 29 2009,14:23)I'm not real sure what to think about the “lost”  books of the Bible….I know that some people say that they should have been left in, and others say that they mean nothing at all.  It's interesting that in the Bible, Jude quotes a passage from the Book of Enoch, and then the book of Jasher was mentioned in t…[Read more]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,12:30)Jesus doesn't call the Holy Spirit “Father” because the Holy Spirit is feminine.  He said he would send us the Comforter, Counselor, Helper and She would dwell in us.The Holy Spirit has as one of her traits/essences, YHWH's Spirit.  Thus when you receive the Holy Spirit you receive YHWH.And Jesus who r…[Read more]