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- June 9, 2009 at 3:42 am#132915ArcAngelParticipant
Revelation 12
9 The giant dragon was thrown down out of heaven. (He is that old snake called the devil or Satan, who tricks the whole world.) The dragon with his angels was thrown down to the earth.Revelation 13
The Two Beasts
1 Then I saw a beast coming up out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, and there was a crown on each horn. A name against God was written on each head.2 This beast looked like a leopard, with feet like a bear's feet and a mouth like a lion's mouth. And the dragon gave the beast all of his power and his throne and great authority.3 One of the heads of the beast looked as if it had been killed by a wound, but this death wound was healed. Then the whole world was amazed and followed the beast.4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given his power to the beast. And they also worshiped the beast, asking, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against it?”5 The beast was allowed to say proud words and words against God, and it was allowed to use its power for forty-two months.6 It used its mouth to speak against God, against God's name, against the place where God lives, and against all those who live in heaven.7 It was given power to make war against God's holy people and to defeat them. It was given power over every tribe, people, language, and nation.8 And all who live on earth will worship the beast—all the people since the beginning of the world whose names are not written in the Lamb's book of life. The Lamb is the One who was killed.
9 Anyone who has ears should listen:
10 If you are to be a prisoner,
then you will be a prisoner.
If you are to be killed with the sword,
then you will be killed with the sword.
This means that God's holy people must have patience and faith.11 Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.12 This beast stands before the first beast and uses the same power the first beast has. By this power it makes everyone living on earth worship the first beast, who had the death wound that was healed.13 And the second beast does great miracles so that it even makes fire come down from heaven to earth while people are watching.14 It fools those who live on earth by the miracles it has been given the power to do. It does these miracles to serve the first beast. The second beast orders people to make an idol to honor the first beast, the one that was wounded by the deadly sword but sprang to life again.15 The second beast was given power to give life to the idol of the first one so that the idol could speak. And the second beast was given power to command all who will not worship the image of the beast to be killed.16 The second beast also forced all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to have a mark on their right hand or on their forehead.17 No one could buy or sell without this mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name. 18 This takes wisdom. Let the one who has understanding find the meaning of the number, which is the number of a person. Its number is 666.[a]
June 7, 2009 at 7:55 pm#132745ArcAngelParticipantWell, evidences abound, and this is one. I should say that there could be many more at hand, but when they have been found by fundamentalist Darwinians, they have been ignored, hidden or simply destroyed. Destroyed by those who later on demand such evidence. An example of this is the “mysterious” disappearance of more than 50 perfectly kept gigantic antediluvian skeletons (between 10-14 feet tall) found in a cave in Arizona.
You may, or not, have heard that Mr. Samuel Hubbard, discovered remains of giants in a cave in the magnificent Grand Canyon of Arizona. His discovery was very important: He found 2 petrified human bodies about 15-18 feet tall respectively. One of these was buried under a recent rock fall which required several days' work to remove; the other, which Mr. Hubbard photographed, was in a difficult to access crevice. Both bodies were formed of a limestone petrification embedded in sandstone. He also found an ancient beach, now sandstone, that contained a great number of footprints of an entire race of giants: men, women and children. The prints of the adults were between 17 and 20 inches long and corresponded in size and shape to the Carson City and Blue Ridge prints. With these prints are also associated those of a huge elephant, somewhat similar in size to the remains discovered in the La Brea pits –the Elephas Primigenius– as well as tracks of a very small horse, which probably corresponded to the “Pliohippus.” This beach where all this was found was evidently occupied when the river was many hundreds of feet above its actual level. Some of the human prints wee partly covered by the overlying stratum of stone, which is gradually weathering off. Lastly, he found wall drawings that showed dinosaurs, elephants, ostriches, and ibexes; as well as the same figure of the serpent with the egg in its mouth as it has been found in the Mississippi mounds, with numerous other drawings. One of the drawings showed an elephant attacking a man. If the drawing is to scale, and if the elephant corresponds to the La Brea animal, then the man must have been about 18 feet tall.
Even Darwinians have fond specimens so enormous that they have called : “Gigantanthropus” or “Gigantopithecus” (Scientists love those high-sounding names to impress you, and make you think that they know much more than they really do) The following is an interesting quote from Dr. Franz Weidenreich of the American Museum of Natural History and who computed the size of “Meganthropus.” And found out that it was about 800 pounds and, if proportioned like modern man, then he would had been 9 feet tall. About the same height as that famous Nephilim called Goliath a contemporary of another Nephilim, Og the king of Bashan. Dr. Weidenreich said: …
But the gist of the whole story, which arouses our foremost interest, is the fact that “Gigantopithecus” is not a giant ape, as von Koenigswald assumed, but a giant man and should, therefore, be called “Gigantanthropus.” This follows beyond any doubt from the very characteristic pattern of the occlusal surface of the teeth, which differs fundamentally in the structure of the cusps from that of any known anthropoids but agrees even in the minutest details with the hominid pattern as shown by the molars of “Pithecanthropus,” Sinanthropus” (other kinds of Nephilim) and even modern man. On the other hand, the form of the teeth, especially that of the third lower molar, and the condition of its root indicate that it has preserved a very primitive character, much more primitive than the known third molars of any fossil hominid. Therefore, we have the same combination which struck us in the human fossils of Java; namely, primitives together with gigantic proportions. But in the case of “Gigantopithecus” the gigantism reaches a new climax. The volume of the crown of the third lower molar is about six times larger than the average crown of modern man; compared with the corresponding tooth of the gorilla, it is about twice as large. We should remember that there have been found human tracks 21.5 inches long in Texas and even a phenomenal 24 inches long in Australia. On the other hand, let's not forget that every ancient culture on earth has recollections of giants that became part of their mythologies.
June 7, 2009 at 5:12 pm#132734ArcAngelParticipantYeah Id like to know where it says humans are angels as well. Where do you get this stuff man? I mean the Angels arent even the same beings as humans, not even after we are released from this mortal coil are we not the same as angels. And Jesus is The Son of God, Not an Angel. That is why he can deliver your souls and Angels Cant. I mean lucifer is An angel, and he still has to answer the Jesus. WHO HAS POWER STILL OVER ALL THE ANGELS. The only one higher the Jesus is God Himself.
June 7, 2009 at 2:19 pm#132728ArcAngelParticipantQuote (Texas @ June 07 2009,17:01) Quote (ArcAngel @ June 06 2009,12:55) Quote (Texas @ June 06 2009,14:56) We now know, that Jesus was the 'door to the sheep-fold.' That he was the 'good shepherd.' We have learned that the entire realm of religious Christendom, are the 'thieves and robbers, trying to climb up, some other way,' that Jesus spoke about; trying to climb up their own way! We have learned, that because of all the aforesaid, we are to follow ONLY HIM. We have also learned, that Jesus sheep do not listen to Christendom's Religious teachers! That we are to flee from them.
7 So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, I am the door for the sheep. 8 All the people who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.9 I am the door, and the person who enters through me will be saved and will be able to come in and go out and find pasture. 10 A thief comes to steal and kill and destroy, but I came to give life—life in all its fullness.11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. 12 The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd who owns them. When the worker sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them. 13 The man runs away because he is only a paid worker and does not really care about the sheep.
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know my sheep, and my sheep know me, 15 just as the Father knows me, and I know the Father. I give my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not in this flock, and I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock and one shepherd.17 The Father loves me because I give my life so that I can take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me; I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to take it back. This is what my Father commanded me to do.”
If you look It said THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE ME are robbers and thieves. I dont know what you have against other churches, or what church you belong to, But If an individual can help bring someone TO the door then its up to them to open it and ask God to forgive them for their sins. Your whole thing about Christendom,,,What the heck is that. I'm a pretty intelligent person, but you just brought a new one on me. You also seem to be quite judgmental whats up with that. Do it the way you see it or go to Hell? Buddy I've been saved for quite a few years and I can tell you, whenever I heard someone talking like you, I wouldnt listen to them. If your trying to bring people to God, the way your attempting will turn more off than draw them in. Far be it for me to really criticize since I am a mere man and in NO WAY perfect. but its just an observation.
ArcAngel!
Listen “Buddy!” For a guy that doesn't listen to ones like me, you do pretty damn good at trying to begin a conversation, with me, by even replying to my post. You're supposed to flee from me, don't you remember? My idea of you, is, you're nothing more than a hypocrit! You show that you are by replying to my post.By the way, Jesus meant, when he said, 'all those who came before me,' he meant, all of those false prophets that was on the scene prior to his coming into kingdom power. He foretold all of those guys in Matthew 24-Mark 13-Luke 21 that they would be on the earth BEFORE he came into kingdom power. You want an example of those false prophets? Check out the Churchs of Christendom. They are loaded with them! Now, you do as you told me! Go to HELL Pal! Never mind you'll end up in the lake of fire anyway! You'll get there soon enough! Texas
No where with in my post did I tell you to goto hell my friend, all I did is point out a discrepency in your thinking. Oh and I dont flee from people like you. I take a stand against false doctrine. evidently you dont like a good debate (or cant handle one) on what ever judgmental doctrine you have been exposed to. As I said before, if your trying to get people to see YOUR way of thinking, you technique is horrid.As far as false prophets, EVERY religion has its fasle prophets of are you SO in the tank for whatever one your in you dont see that. I also said, I am in NOWAY perfect, so where do you get being a hypocrite. I was very respectful in my post, even though I disagreed with what you said.
Can you do the same?
Take the plank from your OWN eye before trying to remove the splinter from mine.
June 7, 2009 at 2:02 pm#132727ArcAngelParticipantYes but there will only be ONE that will come to power, die from a mortal wound, rise again after 3 1/2 days, And when he rises, will no longer be who he was before. For while he is dead Lucifer WILL ASSEND into that body and thus be THE Anti-Christ of the last days. and in revelations he is reffered to as the beast. THAT is the only one I am concerned with Lucifer incarnate. The many antchrists you refer to are men that are against Christ. BIG DIFFERENCE
June 6, 2009 at 3:17 am#132596ArcAngelParticipantEither he is REALLY long winded and likes to see his own typing, Or does a really good copy and paste job from some manual he has. But its obvious he has very little knowledge on THE Anti-Christ.I went as far back as page 4 and he has A LOT of repeat threads, Maybe he thinks if he says the same thing over and over like Obama did in his campeign people might start getting brainwashed here like they did then. Hey I dont know WHAT his problem is, but he has deffinetly drank SOME cool-aide somewhere.
June 6, 2009 at 3:02 am#132594ArcAngelParticipantJesus is the son of God, Angels are different creatures all together. the were created to worship,praise and do Gods bidding. Where the heck did this whole theory come from? Michael and Jesus the same?I don't know who is teaching you this stuff, but Ill give them this, they have quite an imagination. And the say Im reaching when I'm in the conspiracy threads on the other website I get on.
June 6, 2009 at 12:59 am#132582ArcAngelParticipantWell the nice thig I can say about other versions, is sometimes the different wording may help someone who is not as adept at reading the King James ersion, Understand the message better. BUT I like to cross reference them to see what is being said.
June 6, 2009 at 12:55 am#132581ArcAngelParticipantQuote (Texas @ June 06 2009,14:56) We now know, that Jesus was the 'door to the sheep-fold.' That he was the 'good shepherd.' We have learned that the entire realm of religious Christendom, are the 'thieves and robbers, trying to climb up, some other way,' that Jesus spoke about; trying to climb up their own way! We have learned, that because of all the aforesaid, we are to follow ONLY HIM. We have also learned, that Jesus sheep do not listen to Christendom's Religious teachers! That we are to flee from them.
7 So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, I am the door for the sheep. 8 All the people who came before me were thieves and robbers. The sheep did not listen to them.9 I am the door, and the person who enters through me will be saved and will be able to come in and go out and find pasture. 10 A thief comes to steal and kill and destroy, but I came to give life—life in all its fullness.11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives his life for the sheep. 12 The worker who is paid to keep the sheep is different from the shepherd who owns them. When the worker sees a wolf coming, he runs away and leaves the sheep alone. Then the wolf attacks the sheep and scatters them. 13 The man runs away because he is only a paid worker and does not really care about the sheep.
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know my sheep, and my sheep know me, 15 just as the Father knows me, and I know the Father. I give my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that are not in this flock, and I must bring them also. They will listen to my voice, and there will be one flock and one shepherd.17 The Father loves me because I give my life so that I can take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me; I give my own life freely. I have the right to give my life, and I have the right to take it back. This is what my Father commanded me to do.”
If you look It said THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE ME are robbers and thieves. I dont know what you have against other churches, or what church you belong to, But If an individual can help bring someone TO the door then its up to them to open it and ask God to forgive them for their sins. Your whole thing about Christendom,,,What the heck is that. I'm a pretty intelligent person, but you just brought a new one on me. You also seem to be quite judgmental whats up with that. Do it the way you see it or go to Hell? Buddy I've been saved for quite a few years and I can tell you, whenever I heard someone talking like you, I wouldnt listen to them. If your trying to bring people to God, the way your attempting will turn more off than draw them in. Far be it for me to really criticize since I am a mere man and in NO WAY perfect. but its just an observation.
June 5, 2009 at 7:22 pm#132547ArcAngelParticipantWhat I like to do with any scripture I look up is go onto Bible gateway online, There you can put in any scripture, And cross reference it with any version of the bible. It is VERY interesting the inconsistencies of the latest versions out there.
Thank you for the welcome hun. I also have my own website that I just got up where we discuss the End times, the Illuminati, The New World Order, The Anti-Christ, and a bunch of other things. Basically We are taking the Prophesies of the Bible, and cross referencing it with current Events. Makes for soe interesting findings.
ARC
June 5, 2009 at 3:35 pm#132527ArcAngelParticipantThere is a difference between BEING anti-Christ And THE Anti-Christ. What You have been describing, is BEING Antichrist. The Antichrist is Known by many names in te Bible, In Revelations, He is the Beast. His number is 666. The one who will BE the Anti-Christ, but hasn't risen to power yet IS on this earth. He will be 30 yrs old in 2012. I'm watching for him to rise to power by the end of this year. Their will be a false peace in Israel negotiated and Im betting somehow he will be the key member to do it. The Cainites have done their job well through out history to pave the way for him, kept under many different names and hidden in different groups. And above all kept their blood lines pure Working to bring the Antichrist into being.
Lucifer's season is almost over, Praise be to God. And we wont have to put up with him much longer when Jesus sets up his new Kingdom here on Earth.
June 5, 2009 at 3:11 pm#132525ArcAngelParticipantThe King James bible, is the closest direct translations of the original texts and scrolls. The problem with the newer translations, is that they distort the message, and in some translations completly leave out text to attempt to take God and Jesus words out of it. I used to use the New century version, until it was pointed out to me about these discrepencies. So I went back to the King James.
One thing I have to wonder, Is what they kept out of the bible, guess we'll never know unless someone could get access to the catacombs of the vatican. Cant help but wonder if there arent books that were more discriptive writen that never made it into the Bible. And Ive always wondered Why they left out the book of Enoch just because it was written in Aramaic, wasnt it found with the same Dead Sea Scrolls a lot of the Bible was translated from?
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