AndrewAD replied to the topic They know not what they do? More proof in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years, 11 months ago
Thanks Bod and God bless you too!
AndrewAD replied to the topic They know not what they do? More proof in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years, 11 months ago
Does anyone besides me wonder just who Jesus was praying for here? I’ve heard fundamentalists say he was praying for the Jews who rejected and condemned him,but that just somehow doesn’t ring true when compared to so many other verses that teach to the contrary.
It seems to me,in the context that he is praying for the Roman soldiers who were…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic "Not one of his bones will be broken" in the forum Doctrinal Disagreements 10 years, 11 months ago
I don’t pretend to understand everything about crucifiction but I do understand there were various ways it was done and it’s purpose was to be a slow lingering death which caused much suffering.Some are said to have suffered for days.
So depending on how it was performed I think it is possible that no bones be broke.But as it concerns Jesus from…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Yes Nick I do acknowledge the fact of the more primitive teaching in Acts but just how do you take the evolved teaching in John? Do you think Jesus was really a substitutionary sacrifice? Acts does not teach that even.
Are you a Pentacostal? do you believe in or speak with tongues?
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Was Jesus a man according to you? or was he just a life giving spirit? should you follow this man?
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
For one thing Bodhitarta I don’t deny worship of the Father but if you have not the Son you don’t have the Father either and he who honors not the Son honors not the Father who sent him according to Jn 5:22,23.
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
For one thing Bodhitarta I don’t deny worship of the Father but if you have not the Son you don’t have the Father either and he who honors not the Son honors not the Father who sent him according to Jn5:22,23.
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
I don’t ignore the fact that Jesus attributed his words and and actions to the Father.I was a part of a conservative unitarian group for awhile and they still worshiped Christ.
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Hi St.Nick,
Did I ever say men fall to all divine beings? Have men fallen to Santa Claus? I really don’t know,perhaps they have but I’m ignorant of it.I don’t claim to know it all like you.
Do you even worship Christ? or do you just worship the bible,which is really your interpretation of it?
Why even call yourself a Christian if you don’t…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
I think St.Nick said that quote to me even! But I have never spouted trinity doctrine here,but maybe Santa still just doesn’t like what I say so I won’t be getting goodies at Christmas for not believing him. 🙁
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Wow Kerwin,are you grasping at silly straws here? So those who fell down were “secret believers”maybe? If they feared men more than God then certainly they are not believers or worthy of Christ.He who denies me before men I will deny before the Father-didn’t Jesus say that? But maybe he really didn’t mean that too strictly since even Peter denied…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
bodhitarta, I was placing no special emphasis on people falling down,but asked the question why should or would they fall down over him claiming I am Jesus the Nazarene in John’s gospel? these people didn’t even believe in him so what is the reason they fell down? The story says they did,so why do you think they fell down?
That has nothing to do…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Kerwin,that’s fine that you don’t see it as having anything to do with Exodus,I really don’t either,but it very much does speak to Jesus nature in Jn 8:58.If he’s not calling himself Jehovah he’s at least claiming a preexistence and greater status than Abraham for which the Jews wanted to stone him.And St.Jn 12 speaks to that even more as the…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Lol Nick,you truly do make me laugh or I would not say that.In John 12 it plainly refers to Isaiah seeing Jesus in the context of the whole chapter.Why is that such a big deal to you? Does it hurt your”holy dogmas”? Oh gosh Nick I hope you’re not damned.I’ll pray for you.I guess you don’t worship Jesus either and maybe you should also convert to…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
To Kerwin and Nick,
Kerwin, I know you read the rest of my post.But you choose to pick on the part about the people falling down? And who says temple soldiers were trained in scripture? They weren’t rabbi’s or scribes and that has nothing to do with it anyway.What if they were total unbelievers just doing their job? you don’t know what they…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic Enamoured with false doctrine in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 10 years, 11 months ago
I wonder sometimes just what false doctrine is in terms of religion, when there are countless religions/beliefs in the Christian faith alone.And nearly all Christians damn one another even those within their own denominations,and it’s been that way from the beginning which even the bible testifies to.
I also wonder about the prayer of Jesus in…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic John 18:5-6 in the forum Truth or Tradition 10 years, 11 months ago
Yes when Jesus answered”I am” in response to his own question of “whom do you seek?” in Jn18:5,6 it was affirmative of Jesus the Nazarene.But why should they draw back and fall to the ground over that? unless Jesus was a divine being, which is the main point of St.John’s gospel that Jesus is the Son of God.
In Jn8:58 when he says before Abraham…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic They shall "all" be taught of, ( or is it, by) GOD in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years ago
Of course Jesus and the prophets told parables to illustrate truth.And these parables are of course stories unless you want to believe God really is a shepherd who loses track of his sheep,or maybe he’s a woman who loses a coin and must needs sweep her dusty home to find it.Maybe God is actually a big bird who desires to cover her chicks but…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic The written word of God verses the scribes in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years ago
Hi Nick,The sons of God are led by the spirit of God? then they have spiritual thoughts no less.And the kingdom of God is not meat nor drink but is righteousness,peace and joy in the Holy Ghost.And this we can have now;would you agree? Whatever things are true,honest,just,pure,lovely,think on these things.
Do you seek first the kingdom of God…[Read more]
AndrewAD replied to the topic Called and Chosen. in the forum Scriptural Teachings 11 years ago
But Nick,I’ve yet to read that verse that says we are beheaded in baptism or the one which says those who are led of the spirit are beheaded.
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