Quote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,05:24)Hi BD,So you reject “eyewitness testimony” in favor of 'conjecture'.Your conjecture is nothing that anyone would call “PROOF”? “Eyewitness testimony” is enough to establish the matter.“At the mouth of three witnesses,   shall the matter be established.”  (Deut 19:15)B'shem, יהוה (YÄ-hä-vā) עד (Ed) (Joshua 22:…[Read more]

Hi BD:If you and I and Ed do not need the sacrifice that God provided for sins, then Jesus suffered needlessly?Quote k 24:44 ¶ And he said unto them, These the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and the prophets, and the psalms, concerning me. Luk…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 08 2012,16:35)Quote (942767 @ May 08 2012,14:40)Hi BD:The bible is the Word of God and is the truth, but you cannot pick and choose which scriptures you believe.Jesus preached “repent and believe the gospel”, and he stated: “that except a man is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kindom of God”.  (Mark 1,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 08 2012,17:30)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2012,07:05)Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,11:41)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2012,06:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,05:05)Hi 94, Jesus did not put it that way.But believe what you will.Hi Nick:Is the following a true statement?No, man except Jesus has ascended into heaven from the dead.Love in…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 08 2012,15:00)Hi 94, So he went to the same place but bypassed death.Yes, the scripture states of Enoch that he was translated that he should not taste death. The scripture does not say where God took him, but of Elijah, the scripture states that he went up to heaven in a whirlwind.When the Lord comes for the church,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,17:36)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2012,07:05)Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,11:41)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2012,06:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,05:05)Hi 94, Jesus did not put it that way.But believe what you will.Hi Nick:Is the following a true statement?No, man except Jesus has ascended into heaven from the dead.Love in…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 08 2012,01:02)Quote (terraricca @ May 07 2012,13:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,18:05)Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2012,15:00)so I may not understand all things but I can not see why those two men would be in heaven before the dead of Christ ,their SOUL yes but living with a new heavenly body NO,Pierre,Jesus was the…[Read more]

Hi BD:The bible is the Word of God and is the truth, but you cannot pick and choose which scriptures you believe.Jesus preached “repent and believe the gospel”, and he stated: “that except a man is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kindom of God”. (Mark 1, John 3)Quote 1Jo 4:10 Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he…[Read more]

Hi Ed:I agree with #1 that it doesn't mean that YHVH has not made him God, but I am not sure that “owner” is the proper term for the way that we belong to him. He is our husband and “master”, and we are subjected to God through him. It is a marriage relationship. (Ephesian 5) and We belong to him in that way. Col 1 states that “all things were…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,12:17)Marty,Peter ends that thought with these words:  And this is the word that was preached to you.It is possible that in this case, the phrase “word of God” refers to the literal teaching of God through Jesus through his disciples.  But it is equally possible that this is yet another instance of Jesus being c…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ May 07 2012,11:41)Quote (942767 @ May 07 2012,06:12)Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,05:05)Hi 94, Jesus did not put it that way.But believe what you will.Hi Nick:Is the following a true statement?No, man except Jesus has ascended into heaven from the dead.Love in Christ,MartyMarty,Jesus was yet in his mortal body when he stated…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,11:36)Hi 94, The first part is correct without your additions.Well, read it again and tell me if it is true or not as I have stated it?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 07 2012,02:28)Quote (942767 @ May 05 2012,15:37)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2012,01:41)Nick,Can someTHING that was God become someONE who is no longer God, and has a will of his own?  Does God ever change?Hi Mike:And so, based on this comment, the “Word that was God” that became flesh in John 1 is “No Longer God”?Love in…[Read more]

Hi BD:Salvation is a gift from God.  It is good that you have repented, but now that you have repented, can you obey the Law of God without sinning if only inadvertantly?  If not, you are still dead in your sins to God.  You cannot earn salvation through good works.  It is not what you can do for God but what he has done for humanity in the per…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 07 2012,05:05)Hi 94, Jesus did not put it that way.But believe what you will.Hi Nick:Is the following a true statement?No, man except Jesus has ascended into heaven from the dead.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,13:11)Hi 94, Do the scriptures conflict without your addition?You do not need to add.Nick:Are you not denying the scripture about Elijah? If I am wrong in what I will teach about this, that is that Jesus was saying that no man has ascended into heaven from the dead, I am praying that God will correct me.You can…[Read more]

Hi BD:In principle? If Jesus did not obey the Law of God without sin even unto death, and was not raised by God from the dead, there is no accountability to God for sin, and there is no resurrection from the dead.Love in Christ,Marty

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,12:52)Hi 94, No according to your current understanding of the scriptures.Enoch is unclear but Elijah was SEEN going into the sky.Nick:Enoch may be unclear because the scriptures only state that he was translated that he should not die, but the scriptures state that Elijah was taken into heaven.Quote 2Ki 2:11 And…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,12:35)Hi 94, Are you happy adding to the words of Jesus?I am satisfied that he meant no man has ascended into heaven after physically dieing because it is obvious that two men have ascended into heaven according to the scriptures.Do you deny that the scriptures indicate that Enoch and Elijah were taken into…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 06 2012,11:23)Hi 94,None have gone into heaven before Jesus.This is what Jesus taught Lk 16.23fHi Nick:No man has ascended into heaven after physically dieing. I Know that particular scripture does not say after death, but he did not ascend into heaven until after he died and was resurrected, and that is what has to be…[Read more]