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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ June 29 2013,12:53)Quote (942767 @ June 16 2013,16:11)Mike, the scriptures state that there is “a first Adam”, and “a last Adam”.  Adam = man.Not sure of your point here, but if you just mean man, then Jesus was not the second man. Obviously Adam is referring to the Man. The one whom men originate. You probably agree with that. Not…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Islam 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ June 16 2013,18:42)Quote (2besee @ June 16 2013,17:47)Wakeup,You used 1Cor 15:45 to attempt to prove that Jesus was made into a life giving spirit after death rather than being raised as flesh.So here is your verse:”And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 30 2013,08:28)Martyalso pay attention to this account in the scriptures ;Lk 1:34 “How will this be,” Mary asked the angel, “since I am a virgin?” Lk 1:35 The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow youwhat do you think it means “the holy spirit will come upon you”…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2013,13:43)Quote (942767 @ June 24 2013,08:23)Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2013,15:38)MartyQuote Let's see, He is the head of the body the church, and we the church are his body.  Is that correct?  And so, you are saying that the head of the body is a different species than his body?this are words said allegorically t…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2013,22:36)MartyQuote Quotehe came the same way he returned ,except that God made him to become in a lower state than he was before coming and so born of a women ,when he return to the father he took back his glory (position ) but with more certainty,Please explain all of this to me using scriptures.  Thank you.I think…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 8 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 16 2013,15:38)MartyQuote Let's see, He is the head of the body the church, and we the church are his body.  Is that correct?  And so, you are saying that the head of the body is a different species than his body?this are words said allegorically their is no church ,but a congregation of redeemed souls from the earth in n…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2013,05:55)Yeah, that is odd.  In the Greek, it says “eleven disciples”.And they didn't pick Matthias as the twelfth until after Jesus ascended.  (Acts 1)Definitely odd.  ???Hey Marty, what do you think about verse 19 in the Hebrew version of Matthew?  It just says “Go”.That is indeed interesting, huh?  Nothing at all abou…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 20 2013,15:21)Quote (942767 @ June 20 2013,07:57)Hi All:I found the following video on youtube, and I believe that it shows some pretty good evidence that the gospel of St. Matthew was originally witten in Hebrew, and apparently, there are some unpublished manuscripts of this gospel.  I had prayed and asked God that if…[Read more]

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    Thanks, Mike.

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    Hi All:I found the following video on youtube, and I believe that it shows some pretty good evidence that the gospel of St. Matthew was originally witten in Hebrew, and apparently, there are some unpublished manuscripts of this gospel. I had prayed and asked God that if there was and original manuscript that would show that Matthew 28:19 had been…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ June 16 2013,13:24)Why can't God be talking to the one whom is his very own image and through whom he created the cosmos. Would that not be the obvious conclusion to draw even without looking into this in-depth?Hi t8:God did not tell us to whom he was speaking, but I say the angels, because man whom he  was in the process of creating…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Mike, the scriptures state that there is “a first Adam”, and “a last Adam”. Adam = man. The “Words that he spoke to humanity that could be “spirit and life” to someone who obeyed them are the same “Words of God that he obeyed without sin unto death on the cross”. It is through this “Word of God” that he obeyed that “he is a life giving spirit”.…[Read more]

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    Jesus said that “the words that he spoke to humanity were spirit and they were life.A person is defined by the life that he lives. If he is a Christian, it is because he has been born again, and is obeying the commndments of the Lord, and if he is an evil person, it is because of the evil that he does in his life. A person has a body, a soul (a…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 12 2013,12:19)Quote (942767 @ June 11 2013,18:27)Hi Mike:Can you make your doctrine fit despite the following scripture?Quote 1 Ti 2:5 For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Love in Christ,MartyOf course, Marty.  Post the whole statement Paul made – not just half of it.For there is one…[Read more]

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    Hi Pierre:You said:Quote he came the same way he returned ,except that God made him to become in a lower state than he was before coming and so born of a women ,when he return to the father he took back his glory (position ) but with more certainty,Please explain all of this to me using scriptures.  Thank you.And yes, I know that from Moses unto…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Hi Mike:Can you make your doctrine fit despite the following scripture?Quote 1 Ti 2:5 For one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Love in Christ,Marty

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,22:59)Quote (942767 @ June 07 2013,09:21)Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2013,12:18)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,04:22)Hi Pierre:Please read what I have stated to wakeup, and then if you still have a question, ask.  I don't want to have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again.Love in Christ,MartyMartyI…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic ISM Scale in the forum Truth or Tradition 12 years, 9 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ June 07 2013,15:11)Quote (942767 @ June 07 2013,08:57)Maybe to you, Pierre, and maybe also to Mike and T8 there is more than “One God”, and more than “One Lord”, but the scripture states to me as “a born again Christian, there is but “One God”, the Father, and “One Lord”, Jesus, my Lord”.  I know that there are many that are…[Read more]

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    Hi Wakeup:You quote the following scripture and say:Marty.Mark 14:25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine, **UNTILL THAT DAY** THAT I DRINK IT NEW IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD.THAT DAY WILL COME SOON.wakeup. If you are saying by this that Jesus will soon be coming for the church, then I agree with you, but if you are not…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ June 04 2013,12:18)Quote (942767 @ June 04 2013,04:22)Hi Pierre:Please read what I have stated to wakeup, and then if you still have a question, ask.  I don't want to have to keep repeating the same thing over and over again.Love in Christ,MartyMartyI have read it but it does not answers my questions,this is why I ask you The…[Read more]

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