Pierre, to continue:

You say:

verse 16 says ; For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible,; this verse shows that he was created way before creation start to be created through him right ? I believe so

The “him” that verse 16 speaks of is defined in the previous verse when it says:

Col 1:

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Hi Pierre:

You say:

Paul says in Col;15 ;
1) He is the image of the invisible God ;when was he declared the image of God ? when he was first created or when he came down as a man ?
2) the firstborn over all creation.; when was Jesus created to be the first over all creation ?

Jesus was not created, but he was born into this world as an infant…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

And so,  what questions are you saying that I haven’t answered?

Show me each, and do it one by one, and quit accusing me of being dishonest.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Pierre:

I don’t know how that I haven’t addressed your understanding of the scriptures.  I believe that I have done that on this and other times that we have discussed this subject.

I know that Jesus did not have any sin of his own, but he was dead, spiritually separated from God, because of the sin of the whole world.  He died for our sins, a…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

He is the “first of those who will have been born again”, “the last Adam”. He is the first of the new creation. Adam was the first of God’s creation, man, and God said the following:

Genesis:

26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

You say:

If I am wrong could you show me were I was wrong with the scriptures ?
for you have many scriptures shown,for my understanding

I am looking for the truth in scriptures

(I have already given you scriptures to show when he was made supreme over all of creation.)

Here are a couple of others:

1 Co:20 But Christ has indeed…[Read more]

Hi Ed:

And what does this have to do with 1 Co. 10?  We should seek to come into agreement as to what God has said in His Word, so that we not teach something that He did not say, so, show me where God has said anything about codes being used to verify His Word.

Hi Ed:

I said the following:

Whether or not codes verify something or not is dependent upon what codes relative to what things, and so, tell me what you are talking about and I will tell you whether or not I believe that the codes verify what you are saying that they do.

And so, you showed me that a pin # has to be used at an ATM to make a…[Read more]

Hi t8:

So Trump didn’t win the popular vote, thus he shouldn’t be the president? We shouldn’t pray for him?

I did not vote for him, but even thou he did not win the popular vote, he did win the presidency by virtue of the system that is in place in the United States, and so, yes, I will pray for him, as the scriptures say that I should.  The…[Read more]

Hi t8:

So Trump didn’t win the popular vote, thus he shouldn’t be the president? We shouldn’t pray for him?

I did not vote for him, but even thou he did not win the popular vote, he did win the presidency by virtue of the system that is in place in the United States, and so, yes, I will pray for him, as the scriptures say that I shoul…[Read more]

But, maybe, just maybe, you are the one who is wrong?

Hi Pierre:

Jesus is the first born over all of creation

Col 1:
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning

Matt:

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

The above scriptures show how “he is the firstborn over all of creation”.

Hi T8:

Did you notice in that video, that in the year 2000 the simpsons had predicted that Donald Trump would win the election, and that Mrs. Clinton would win the next one?

Incidentally, Clinton did win the popular vote, and so, the majority of the people of the United States voted for Clinton.

Relative to God the Alpha and Omega speaks to the fact that He is eternal.

Jesus is the uniquely begotten Son of God.   He was conceived by the Holy Ghost in the womb of Mary.  He then was born again by the Spirit of God when he was raised from the dead.  He was in the likeness of human flesh.  He was not born of the sperm of man like the res…[Read more]

Hi guys, I found the following video on youtube, and it relates to this topic.
The speaker, however, is a SDA, and believes in a Saturday only sabbath:

Hi guys, I found the following video on youtube, and it relates to this topic.
The speaker, however, is a SDA, and believes in a Saturday only sabbath:

Hi T8:

Regardless, God does appoint leaders whether they acknowledge him or not.

When God appointed a leader, He did not rely on the people to vote him in as was done in our democracy.

In he NT, he gave Jesus all power of heaven and earth, and he has said that he appoints leaders in the church.  He does not say that he appoints the leaders of…[Read more]

Hi T8:

You say:

Chosen means that God called him to run for this position to give God’s people in America the choice of a leader who they could vote for

Did he say that God called him, chosen him, to run for president?

Yes, as you say to me, you are entitled to your opinion. I have given you my opinion. Only God knows for sure.

Of c…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

It is not God’s will that any man should perish but that all would come to repentance.

1 Timothy 2King James Version (KJV)

2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;

2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable…[Read more]

Hi Ed:

2) So by this response are you insinuating the God could not have chosen “Donald J. Trump”? y/n

Yes, I am saying that I do not believe that God chose Donald Trump.  I believe that the people who were fed up with status quo politicians chose him, that is how it is done in a democracy.  Did God forsee that this would be the result of the e…[Read more]