Hi KW:

Perhaps the following scripture will convince you:

Matthew 1:

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi t8:

You keep using the following scripture to support your belief in a pre-existent Jesus:

Phil 2:

5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

By this scripture the Apostle Paul is teaching the church about humility and referring to the “mind of…[Read more]

Hi KW:

94277,

I am not using Christian to mean a literal student-adherent of Christ though since Abraham was a student-adherent of the words spoken by the Spirit of Christ he may also be considered a student-adherent of Christ.

I was using it in the since of claiming Abraham has the same religion as the disciples of Christ since he worships the…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

You say:

but scriptures don’t say that it is in that way that Jesus came from above and down from heaven ;but if you have a scripture that says that i would like to know

My comments:

Well do the scriptures in John 6 show me how he came from heaven, but they do not say that to you, maybe you can show me how he came from heaven if y…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Hi 94,

So?

The important matter is that this man was anointed and perfectly used by God to speak and teach for God.

Or would you say some of the words in Isaiah came from the man?

My Comments:

I agree that this a very important matter, but his whole life matters from his birth, his life under the Law of Moses, that he was anointed…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

It was t8 who said what you say that I said.  I was responding to his comment.  Jesus was anointed to preach the gospel or the Word of God, therefore, he is not the Word of God.

Hi 94,

You say

“‘So if Jesus came in the flesh and the Word became flesh, then is Jesus the Word of God?

Hi Nick and KW:

I don’t believe that you can call Abraham a Christian inasmuch as the term for the disciples was first used here:

25 Then departed Barnabas to Tarsus, for to seek Saul:

26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much p…[Read more]

Hi BD:

This is what God told Abraham:

Genesis 17:
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the Lord appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

2 And I will make my covenant between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.

3 And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him,…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Hi 94,

He was a son of God by conception too but the sonship that matters is according to the Spirit at the Jordan

But if he had not been a Son of God by conception, then he would not have been baptized with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi T8:

Agreed.

So if Jesus came in the flesh and the Word became flesh, then is Jesus the Word of God?

Luke 4:

14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he…[Read more]

Hi T8:

Agreed.

So if Jesus came in the flesh and the Word became flesh, then is Jesus the Word of God?

14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.

15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.

Luke 4:

16 And he came to Nazareth, where he…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

The human vessel came from the womb of Mary.

So, God did not have anything do with this?  Do you believe that the Holy Ghost overshadowed Mary and that is how the human vessel was conceived in her womb.

Also, relative to what you state about the breath of God, and call the human spirit, all of humanity have the breath of God, but…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Did the Spirit act independently of the body or through the body?  It is what God was doing through Jesus that matters and gives us life.  He spoke those Word of God to humanity which if believed with a repentant heart will give life to the soul, but Jesus gave his life and shed his blood for the propitiation of our sins, and so, if he h…[Read more]

Hi BD:

Yes, each denomination claims to be teaching the truth, and each religion claims that they are right, and so, we are in Babylon which is confusion, and it is easy for anyone to claim to have the truth, but if God does not confirm what they teach with the same kind of signs and wonders that He did through Jesus and the Apostles in their…[Read more]

Hi:

The Ten Commandments are God’s eternal laws written with the finger of God in Stone. These commandments do not change. These laws are now written on our heart if we are born again and obeying the Word of God.

All of God’s Word to us is given to us out of God’s love for us, and this principle of working 6 days and resting on the seventh day…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

Why don’t you prove that what I stated does not harmonize with the other scriptures that T8 gave on this matter. This is not a new subject that we have not discussed during our time on this website. I don’t have to prove anything to you.

What I will do is pray that God will correct me if I am teaching anything that is not His…[Read more]

Hi Pierre:

hi Marty

can you include all the t8 OP verse into your explanation without breaking any of the scriptures ?

I believe that I can. God does not say one thing in one place and another contradicting Him self in another. The Word of God must be consistent.

Love in Christ,
Marty

Hi Nick:

Hi 94,

He had a human spirit from conception till Calvary.

He was reborn from above and showed us how to follow him.

I don’t quite know what you are saying.  Jesus was a man who had a flesh body but now is a man who has a spiritual body.

But his spirit is the life that he lives in the body, flesh or spiritual.   He stated that “the w…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Hi 94,

He had a human spirit from conception till Calvary.

He was reborn from above and showed us how to follow him.

I don’t quite know what you are saying.  Jesus was a man who had a flesh body but now is a man who has a spiritual body.

But his spirit is the life that he lives in the body, flesh or spiritual.   He stated that “the w…[Read more]

Hi Nick:

Well, I do know that he was born of the seed of David according to the flesh:

 
Romans 1King James Version (KJV)
1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)

3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was ma…[Read more]