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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi Mike:You ask:Quote The words God speaks are considered to be His “sons”? I believe you can figure this out on your own.Lovwe in Christ,Marty

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,03:42)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 07 2012,19:01)In John 1:14 what God has spoken pertaining to Jesus became a reality.So it was “what God has spoken pertaining to Jesus” that dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son?The words God speaks are considered to be His “sons”?  ???Hi Mike:What God had spoken…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi BD:The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God the Father of our Lord Jesus, God's Only Begotten Son and His Christ, and the Father of every born again believer.Jesus was born as an innocent infant, just as any infant who is born into this world. Jesus was raised by parents under the Law of Moses. When the scripture states that he waxed strong in…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,06:38)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,14:35)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,14:28)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,14:16)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,13:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,12:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:15)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,08:54)Hi BD,He was the “Son of God” at his conception,…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,14:28)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,14:16)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,13:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,12:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:15)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,08:54)Hi BD,He was the “Son of God” at his conception, perhaps this is what you were thinking of?Messiah means “anointed” of God, he…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,13:39)My mistake Marty.  I don't believe Jesus is Michael, and I never have.  I should have said “Gabriel” instead of “Michael”.My point is that if God decided to take a spirit being who had existed for eons, and bring him to life in flesh through a human woman at a later date, then all the things said in the s…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 08 2012,13:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,12:15)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:15)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,08:54)Hi BD,He was the “Son of God” at his conception, perhaps this is what you were thinking of?Messiah means “anointed” of God, he was anointed with the HolySpirit at his baptism.B'shemYHVHED.Jesus was…[Read more]

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    Hi Mike:And remember, you also said that his name was Jesus and was already God's Christ in his pre-existant state not Michael.Love in Christ,Marty

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,12:39)What would you like me to explain, Marty?If Michael the archangel was to be sent to be born of a human woman, would not all of those same things still be said of him, despite the fact he already was Michael for many years in heaven before he was born of a woman?Hi Mike:Was Michael the Archangel sent to be…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 05 2012,13:39)Yes Marty.Hi Mike:Well if this is what you believe then his name was Jesus in his pre-existent state, and was also already God's Christ.In light of this please explain the following scriptures:Quote Mat 1:1 ¶ The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham. Quote Mat 1:18 ¶ N…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 07 2012,13:15)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2012,08:54)Hi BD,He was the “Son of God” at his conception, perhaps this is what you were thinking of?Messiah means “anointed” of God, he was anointed with the HolySpirit at his baptism.B'shemYHVHED.Jesus was anointed from birth he was conceived by the HOLY SPIRIT and guess what he was…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2012,08:08)Quote (Frank4YAHWEH @ Jan. 07 2012,14:56)No, I do not believe that Yahweh's word is Yahshua! Father Yahweh's word is just that, His word!And how then do you explain 1:14, Frank?  Did Jehovah's word BECOME flesh?  How does that work?Did Jehovah's word DWELL among men?  What does that mean?Did Jehovah's word ha…[Read more]

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    Hi Kathi:Thomas did express to Jesus when he believed that he finally believed that he had been raised from the dead, saying “My Lord and my God”, and the scriptures do not tell us why.  Jesus stated in John 14 “he who has seen me has seen the Father”, and perhaps, this is why he makes this expression.But following the scripture in which Thomas…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 04 2012,06:10)Marti,I know that you see those verses and think that Jesus can't be God also. The reason that Jesus stresses that He is from God, the same God of the people of Israel, is to help them realize that He was not sent from a foreign god but has the full support of their God behind Him and that He is there because…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 04 2012,06:10)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 03 2012,14:35)Hi BD,So now you do admit that Jesus was resurrected? (1Cor.15:17)1Cor.15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.B'shem (in the Name of)YHVH (the everlasting God)Let me demonstrate something here let's say I agreed with everything you have…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 02 2012,15:22)But Marty, nothing that you wrote would challenge what I wrote.  I agree that the Father is and always will be the Son's Father and thus His God since He is deity and His Father.  If the Son did not acknowledge His Father as His God, then the Son would cease from being the perfect Son.  Also in the flesh, He…[Read more]

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    No Kathi:Jesus is a man who has been perfected, and is the express image of God's person, the last Adam. There is only “One God” and when Jesus was going to ascend to the right hand of God he made it clear that he was not God when he stated:Quote Jhn 20:16 Jesus saith unto her, Mary. She turned herself, and saith unto him, Rabboni; which is to…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2012,15:31)I don't know.  There is no reason for me to think it hasn't always been Jesus.Hi Mike:In the following verses, the scriptures refer to the mind which was in Christ Jesus:Quote Phl 2:5 ¶ Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Phl 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not r…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi BD:The scripture states that the wages of sin is death which means spiritual separation from God, and all men have sinned, and so what we will have earned by breaking God's Laws is spiritual separation from Him. If Jesus had not obeyed God without sin even unto death, and was not consequently raised from the dead by God then there is no…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 01 2012,15:07)Quote (942767 @ Dec. 31 2011,21:30)Hebrews 1 states that in these last days God has spoken to us by His Son.That's right Marty.  God has spoken to us through many spokesman, as Hebrews 1 says.  Only one of those spokesmen has been given the title “the Word of God” though.That one is Jesus, as Rev 19:13 m…[Read more]

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