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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2012,04:01)martyQuote but it does not state that all men were born in sin, that is false????PS 51:5 Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me.PierreHi Pierre:And so, his mother conceived him in sin. That does not say that David was a sinner as an infant.Love in Christ,Marty

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 12 2012,20:44)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 12 2012,16:56)Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,02:54)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:47)Hi BD:What translation are you using?Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,BD plays musical bible translations, meaning he picks and chooses which translation that best fits his preconceived ideas of truth to post…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 11 2012,16:02)Hi Marty,I appreciate your time, really.  Something that I don't believe you understand is that…BECAUSE Jesus is the Son of God, that is why He is also God like His Father.  Together with their Holy Spirit, they are united as one God to us.  Perfect Father begat perfect Son.  Together they create, and sav…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Pastry @ Jan. 09 2012,22:44)Marty!  What you claim seams to somewhat not what Scriptures say.  John talks about who Jesus was before He became flesh, not after…. He came down from Heaven, and He had a glory with His Father BEFORE the world was…… that is not after He was born of Maria… but beforeJhn 6:38   For I came down from he…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 12 2012,10:12)Okay Marty,You have clearly said FOR THE RECORD that God CANNOT cause a spirit being to be born as a human being.But you have sidetracked the second queston.  Here it is again:Is it possible for God to cause a human being to be reborn as a spirit being?  YES or NO?Mike:I am not going to answer with a simple y…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,14:53)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,14:23)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,13:34)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,13:24)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,12:58)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:47)Hi BD:What translation are you using?John was to be the forerunner to Jesus, and he was anointed as a prophet with the Holy…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2012,02:54)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:47)Hi BD:What translation are you using?Love in Christ,MartyHi Marty,BD plays musical bible translations, meaning he picks and chooses which translation that best fits his preconceived ideas of truth to post with.It must be funny watching him scour the various versions to find the…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (TimothyVI @ Jan. 12 2012,06:07)Bod is correct.Paul was not even sure that there ever was a human Jesus.He only saw a vision of a spirit Jesus.Paul never even mentioned any of the miracles that Jesus performed that the other gospels described.TimBD is not correct and neither are you:Quote Rom 1:1 ¶ Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2012,11:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,21:25)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:19)Marty, is it possible for God to cause one of His angels to be born of flesh from a human woman?  YES or NO?No.??? Is it possible for God to cause a human being to be reborn as a spirit being?  YES or NO?Hi Mike:I have already answered y…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2012,23:16)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,18:38)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,22:32)MartyQuote Really, Mike:Michael, Gabriel what difference does that make.  You said that his name was Jesus and was already God's Christ in his pre-existent state.And how do you reconcile your belief with the following scripture:not…[Read more]

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    Quote Hbr 1:4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. Hbr 1:5 ¶ For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? Hbr 1:6 And again, when he bringeth in…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:19)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,18:26)Hi Mike:No, not being difficult, nor am I confused, just trying to get you to justify what you have stated, which you have not.Okay Marty, If you want to do this the hard way, let's do it:Marty, is it possible for God to cause one of His angels to be born of flesh from a…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,13:34)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,13:24)Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,12:58)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:47)Hi BD:What translation are you using?John was to be the forerunner to Jesus, and he was anointed as a prophet with the Holy Spirit in the role of presenting the Messiah to the nation of Israel.  Why…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:59)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 08 2012,18:11)Hi Mike:What God had spoken pertaining to Jesus became a reality, and Jesus began to exist in the flesh.Okay Marty,Let's try out your theory with the scripture:1 In the beginning was WHAT GOD HAD SPOKEN PERTAINING TO JESUS, and WHAT GOD HAD SPOKEN PERTAINING TO JESUS was…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Quote (bodhitharta @ Jan. 09 2012,12:58)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 09 2012,12:47)Hi BD:What translation are you using?John was to be the forerunner to Jesus, and he was anointed as a prophet with the Holy Spirit in the role of presenting the Messiah to the nation of Israel.  Why the scripture states that he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi BD:This is what the scriptures state relative to Jeremiah the prophet.Quote Jer 1:4 ¶ Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations. Jesus said the following about John the…[Read more]

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    942767 replied to the topic Reason and Religion in the forum Faith 14 years, 2 months ago

    Hi BD:What translation are you using?John was to be the forerunner to Jesus, and he was anointed as a prophet with the Holy Spirit in the role of presenting the Messiah to the nation of Israel. Why the scripture states that he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even from birth, I do not know, but that is what the scripture states. Surely, he…[Read more]

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    Quote (seekingtruth @ Dec. 15 2011,09:41)Pray for my eldest son, as my business partner he has gone through all the same problems I have, but his wife also left him. He is having trouble handling everything as it has drug on for 4 1/2 years now and we're still unemployed. Guess I could use some prayer also.But I need to note: God has been faithful…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2012,22:32)MartyQuote Really, Mike:Michael, Gabriel what difference does that make.  You said that his name was Jesus and was already God's Christ in his pre-existent state.And how do you reconcile your belief with the following scripture:not God's Christ but the only begotten son of God ,that would be the Christ that…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2012,03:39)Quote (942767 @ Jan. 07 2012,21:28)Really, Mike:Michael, Gabriel what difference does that make.  You said that his name was Jesus and was already God's Christ in his pre-existent state.Okay Marty, I don't know if you're being difficult on purpose, or if you're really confused.FORGET THAT I SAID ANY NAME AT…[Read more]

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