Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2014,05:18)Quote (4Thomas @ May 08 2014,21:33)2 Peter uses the word Logos so is valid.So does this scripture:Matthew 12:37For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.Does the fact that the Greek word is “logos” in the above scripture mean the “word” mentioned is Jesus Christ?  Of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 10 2014,00:17)Danielwhy does it take so long to answer Mike questions you could have saved you one hour in written words ,if you would take one minute to answer his questions ,now you postpone the answer again ,and prepare a counter attack so to speak  Hi t I'm auckland at the moment for work and I was truly on holiday…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 09 2014,13:52)Quote (4Thomas @ May 08 2014,00:02)NOW you say God the Father created the heavens and earth through his literal Word.NO he created through his true SON, the Logos, the Word.Both are equally accurate, Daniel.God literally SPOKE things into existence, and therefore created by His literal spoken words.  (Genesis…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 08 2014,13:28)Quote (4Thomas @ May 06 2014,00:13)So you say that the Father is ALONE the creator and then you say he didn't create WITHOUT the Son.You can't say that the Father created by a literal word ALONE because this excludes the Son, do you understand this?Daniel,Please just listen for 10 SECONDS………..Jehovah the…[Read more]

Hi Mike,I believe you use reason and common sense but been brought up in an environment that has only allowed one view to be expressed. I hope and i also have faith that you will accept the Son as the only true begotten God, the “one and only” true Son.When I asked you what Jesus was before he took flesh why didn't you admit that he was God?This…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 06 2014,13:12)Quote (4Thomas @ May 04 2014,19:25)Hi Mike,I'm not twisting any scripture -you know this is the truth.I believe you are, Daniel.  You WANT so bad for Jesus to have been our Creator that you are reaching for things, understanding scriptural words in a way other than the most logical way they could be…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ May 06 2014,01:18)Danielyou have not addressed Mike question at allHi T,I'm sorry, Yes you are right, I didn't have time to explain them so I summarized by saying.I don't believe Jesus as the Son of man and the lamb of god created the heavens. So with all the scriptures that reveal the messiah we need to realise that the Word…[Read more]

Hi Mike,The Lamb and all your examples of YOUR questions are Jesus as the Son of Man. I agree Jesus didn't create the heavens as the Son of man or the lamb of God. He created them BEFORE the the Word was made flesh. remember the Word was God and all things were made through him and FOR him.Jesus became the Son of Man because he LOVES us, he Loves…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Here is some help..Lets obey the Fathers words!Hebrews 1:10-12He also says, “In the beginning, Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. You will roll them up like a robe; like a garment they will be changed. But you…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2014,05:11)Quote (4Thomas @ May 02 2014,00:00)Scripture teaches it is BY the Son and Through the Son and FOR the Son. these are not my words.Didn't you read my last post?  God created you BY your parents.  But it was still GOD who actually created you, Daniel.Ephesians 3:9And to make all men see what is the fellowship o…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 02 2014,12:35)Hey Daniel,I just read this in another thread:2 Corinthians 4:6For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” made his light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of God's glory displayed in the face of Christ.Once again, Christ is clearly distinguished as someone OTHER THAN the God…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 01 2014,11:33)Actually Daniel,Let me make this real easy for the both of us:Is it clear from Genesis 1 that Jehovah God spoke literal words which caused the heavens, the stars, the earth, and the creatures on it to come into existence?The only honest answer is “YES”.Therefore, when you read a scripture that speaks of God…[Read more]

Hi Mike,Sorry about the delay. Psalm 33:6By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, their starry host by the breath of his mouth.Please read the commentaries that have actually even revealed more explicit examples of the Expressed Word (The Son) and the Breath of God (The Holy Spirit) If you are interested here are some…[Read more]

Hi T8,correction to my post, instead of editing I will note what I entered incorrectly belowThe Son who is OF the one God [the Father, is FROM the one God's (The Fathers substance)the statement should have saidThe Son who is OF the one God, [The Son is FROM the one God's (The Fathers substance, this is how they are one) Satan is not FROM the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ April 29 2014,23:01)Daniel. Jesus own words testify of the truth as to who the true God is and it is not Jesus. He states it clearly and he says that these words are eternal life. So you better listen up.John 17:3“And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.”Jesus was either…[Read more]

Hi t,You can't have an almighty God of Nothing especially an eternal Almighty *unchanging* Father. Child faith.I can prove explicitly with scripture that it was THE Son who appeared as THE ALMIGHTY in the old testament.Exodus 6:32God also said to Moses, “I am the Lord . 3I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my n…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 28 2014,22:37)Danielyou have to learn to answer my questions also ;if not why do we talking if you are going to do all the talking ;Hi t,I only had 10 minutes and didn't even have time to reply to Mike,You think I lie by calling Jesus THE Son, God. So I ask you WHAT is he before he took flesh???Here are some **EXPLICIT**…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ April 28 2014,01:22)DANIELQuote Exactly we must submit to the scriptures.KEEP YOUR WORD ;AND MAKE TRUE RESEARCH DO NOT LET THE DEVIL KEEP YOU BLINDHi t,The most important thing you need to know about *the* Son is.1: Who is heand2: What is heNow we know he is the Son of man when he became flesh.What I need to know FROm you is…[Read more]

Hi T,Exactly we must submit to the scriptures.As Jesus the Son of God became the Son of man he came to earth and his life AS A MAN is recorded.The thing that I believe is the key thing to NOT being LOST is to understand ***WHAT*** Jesus THE Son ofMan was before he was recorded as walking this earth as A MAN (The Son of Man) There are many…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 23 2014,10:54)Quote (4Thomas @ April 21 2014,19:30)Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 18 2014,12:24)1.  I want you to recognize that the Apostles of Christ who made the prayer in Acts 4 did NOT consider Jesus to be the one who “made the heavens and the earth and the sea, and everything in them”.Do you recognize that fact?  YES o…[Read more]