Hi Mike,You said,Quote (Unless you believe that God the Father actually IS His own “Holy Spirit Son”.)Nobody knows the Father but the Son (Matt 11:27). Nobody knows the thoughts of God but the spirit of God (1st Cor 2:11).Add it up.Spirit gives birth to spirit (John 3:6)God is spirit, the Holy Spirit is spirit.God is spirit, and those who worship…[Read more]

Mike,Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,11:19) John 171  After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.Quote 1.  Who does the s…[Read more]

Wakeup,You still cannot find anything in the NT can you, which agrees with your teachings.One day when I have some time, I will do a big post with all of it.Deal?BTW, Wakeup, Regarding the other thread, I think I will leave it, I see now that it is not really fair to have a conversation with just one person and exclude all others.Okay?I will talk…[Read more]

Wakeup,I have only one more thing to say, for now.I could quote you plenty of scriptures from the new testament that speak of the return of Jesus and the kingdom to come. And you know that.

I would like to quote a person,Quote “Amil seems to be as far up the ladder as one can get when it comes to understanding of endtimes things. It's obviously a step up from pre-mil, since, usually former pre-mils become amils, and not the other way around. I'm not stating that amil is correct or incorrect, it just seems that once one becomes amil…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,10:42)For your information.The apostles are to preach the gospel.Prophets are to prophecy.Hi Wakeup,Jesus spoke of His return and so did the Disciples and Paul, so what are you saying, wakeup? That is silly.lol.

Quote There are many more prophesies in the book of revelation and the old testament,that we ought to put together to see the big picture.Hi Wakeup,I do. As God shows me, I see it.

Wakeup,The words of Jesus do not count, to you?The words of the Apostles do not count?One verse to confirm what you teach, from the new testament, you cannot find one single verse, can you.

Anyway, it si up to you.But I would advise you to look for a coming Lord not a coming Millenium..I would advise you to listen to the words of the Lord, too.“At that time, if anyone says to you, ‘Look! Here’s the Messiah!’ or ‘There he is!’, don’t believe it, because false messiahs and false prophets will appear and display great signs and won…[Read more]

And regarding the book of Revelations. You are trying to fit all of your beliefs into one chapter of the new testament. I will re-post what I quoted earlier, from the Amillenial Audio..”Your position says that only in the 20th chapter of the book of Revelation does it allow for the time period for the unfulfilled prophecies of a golden age as…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,00:46)That book has more holes in it than a siff.written with no knowledge of the prophesies.Wakeup,It was not a book. It is a collection of writings from different Saints of the earliest Church (1st and 2nd century) and, according to their beliefs, if they are correct, then once again (as it was with water baptism) -…[Read more]

Wakeup,You have nothing from the words of Jesus nor the words of the Apostles.Nothing.Don't you think that they would have reconfirmed what you are saying if it was truth?

Journey,That is excluding Revelations which anyone can misinterpret.

Quote (journey42 @ Feb. 12 2013,02:31) Excellent post Devo!Well explained.This won't be accepted by a few because the SOLIDS are in the old testament.  If it's not mentioned in the new testament, plainly and clearly, then most won't understand.  Just like Zion for example.  The word ZION is mentioned around 160 times in the old testament, but NO…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ Feb. 12 2013,00:12)2besee,Zechariah 14:5 >And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.Tell me, what Day is…[Read more]

Hi Devo, Wakeup and Journey, and anybody else,Could you please not quote whole posts which are long, one after the other, unless the post that you are replying to, is on another page.There are ten posts I think per page, so I find it a bit annoying having to scroll through things that were already said in a post directly above it. Thank you.

Hi Mike.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,12:14)So far, we've learned that the following things cannot be scripturally refuted:Quote 1.  John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “and the Word was a god”.  (Many expert Greek scholars)But the spirit of truth tells us if we are listening, that this is not so.Quote 2.  Jesus is called a god in sc…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 11 2013,12:14)So far, we've learned that the following things cannot be scripturally refuted:1.  John 1:1c can be faithfully translated as “and the Word was a god”.  (Many expert Greek scholars)2.  Jesus is called a god in scripture.  (Is 9:6, Heb 1:8-9, etc.)3.  Jesus was with God before the world began.  (John 17:5)…[Read more]

Isaiah 111“A shoot will come outfrom the stump of Jesse,and a branch will bear fruitfrom his roots.2The Spirit of the LORD will rest upon him,the Spirit of wisdom and understanding,the Spirit of counsel and power,the Spirit of knowledge and fear of the LORD.3His delight will be in the fear of the LORD.He won’t judge by what his eyes see,nor dec…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 11 2013,17:00)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 11 2013,06:12)Mike, Jesus did not existed until His conception on Earth, whereas, the Holy Spirit has always existed.2beewere are your scriptures that says that ,because all scriptures are saying that he existed before the foundation of the earth ,that he is the first creation of God…[Read more]