Thank you for that post too T, that is very informative,

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 13 2013,08:37)I am not fooled by eloquent writing, trust me.Hi T,This was not to you that I said I did not know that you had posted.

I am not fooled by eloquent writing, trust me.

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,22:03)2Besee.This is exactly what I am saying; you need to know the prophesies. Daniel and Revelation tells you what the false prophet is going to do when he comes.And he will be here soon.jerusalem was desstroyed by the romans.70 ad.Jerusalem again will be trodden down by the Romans.END TIME ROMANS. ok. which are…[Read more]

Devo, I am looking at it now (the whole chapter of Zechariah 14).You know Zechariah 14 is a difficult chapter. Even Luther states, quote: “In this chapter, I surrender, for I am not certain of what the prophet treats.” – and I agree!So far from what I have read, this seems okay:http://www.studylight.org/com/bcc/view.cgi?book=zec&chapter=014But I…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,11:34)Jesus did prophecy a bit here and there,(matt.24).and so the apostles.But to know prophecy we must go to revelation and the old prophets.Thats what they are there for.What about Ez.37 and 38. is that not prophecy?Can you find that in the gospels? NO.And many ,many more that you and all, have not gone through.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2013,20:10)2besee, my view is that like any generation, they take what they have inherited and take it to the next level or explore it further. But the danger in that is that they can not only stray from the path, but can be more easily misquoted.I think the Trinity Doctrine developed from the original understanding that theos…[Read more]

T,I mean that sometimes it feels as if people are speaking a different language, with big words and such.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 12 2013,18:49)The funny thing his ,that God said that he will call to him people with strange languages ,I feel like one of thoseT, don't worry, you are not alone in that, me too.

Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 12 2013,19:16)Mike and all,I believe God cannot be tempted by evil because his spirit is the only source of Love, similar to how a lake is the source of water.  There is no other source of Love and his Love is greater than creation.  In this way God is Love.Kerwin, Amen and also, there is no fear in God's love though s…[Read more]

Wakeup,

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2013,16:54)2besee, it is the same in English to a degree.If I say to you, THE man, then I am talking about a specific man.If I say, 'man', then I am talking of mankind, thus I am talking about a nature.e.g., The man used tools to carve the rock.versesMan used tools to carve the rock.That is why Adam is the first man.Adam means…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2013,16:51)2besee, it is our lack of Greek that makes us think these guys were double minded. But most seem to know the difference between identity and nature, while we seem to lack that understanding.In my search for understanding  I did read most of the anti-nicene writings and it left me feeling quite complexed compared to…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 12 2013,12:52)Dont post heaps of scriptures,just to fill up the screen.Why? Because they are from the new testament instead of the old testament? Is it not you and your three who post 'heaps' of scriptures that fill up the screen from the old testament over and over?Have you found that ONE verse from the new testament yet…[Read more]

t8,The trinity was developing from about Irenaeus/Justin Martyr. They were inconsistent in their Christology. One minute they say that God alone created, and that God's Logos was His spoken word, but next minute they say that the Logos was another being. They are too confusing, I found.

t8,”Hippolytus, 230AD”?You do know that by that time, the trinity was developed or was developing, don't you?

t8,I am sure that you knew what I meant.”Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.”And when I said to get your facts straight first, it was in regard to how you judged my belief as wrong.Believing that the Holy Spirit was…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Feb. 12 2013,10:13)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,10:42)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,20:51)And yet is the Holy Spirit another son?According to 2besee, “YES”.  2B believes that the Holy Spirit is the original “eternal Son of God”, who works side by side with Jesus – a different Son of God.  Yet he acknowledges that Jesus was brought f…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 12 2013,09:42)Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2013,20:51)And yet is the Holy Spirit another son?According to 2besee, “YES”.  2B believes that the Holy Spirit is the original “eternal Son of God”, who works side by side with Jesus – a different Son of God.  Not side by side, Mike. I said “as one”.