Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 24 2013,13:20)KQuote I am of the belief that his going away started with his self sacrifice and accumulates with his sitting on his throne that is in heaven.you have much to learn in scriptures ,and unless you stop carrying the load of your.opinions into scriptures I am afraid you will never come to the truth of God  ,it…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,12:13)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,16:36)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:16)You guys keep talking about Gnostics as if it is a cuss word, and claiming that it was they to whom John referred in 1 John 4:2-3.But it is obvious from what Gene said about the Gnostics that they DID believe Jesus “has come in the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,12:05) 2B, why do you think you guys can't easily produce some writing where a normal human being was said to have “come in the flesh”?Mike, WHY?As if there were other people who had been like Jesus?Jesus was the second Adam, the only one who overcome, the only one who was the firstborn of/over all of creation as…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:57)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,15:08)So from the above we can see that:Jesus is the Lord.The Lord is the Spirit.The Spirit is the Holy Spirit.The Spirit is the one who knows the deep things of God.The Spirit is not some other God, but is God's own Spirit.So then the teaching is that GOD knows the things of GOD?…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2013,04:11)Mike………. If you believe all three of those thing i wrote, you are no different then a Gnostic, because you have bought into their teachings that corrupted the truth about Jesus. I have tried over and over, over the years to get you people to see that Mike.You believe the “WORD”  who was God became…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,11:16)You guys keep talking about Gnostics as if it is a cuss word, and claiming that it was they to whom John referred in 1 John 4:2-3.But it is obvious from what Gene said about the Gnostics that they DID believe Jesus “has come in the flesh”, right?  So how then could they be the antichrists John warned…[Read more]

Hi Mike, Seeing that you like to do “word studies” from the Greek, then study this:'There is one God. There is also one mediator between God and human beings—a human, the Messiah Jesus.'or as some versions would have it:'There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.'Man/Human Being.Strong's Concordance:anthrópos: a…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 24 2013,10:15)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 23 2013,10:22)Now you come up with this garbage we never Produced ONE.Don't get confused, Gene.I'm asking for a published statement from anywhere and any time in the history of the world, where someone has used the phrase, “has come in the flesh” to convey the thought that the…[Read more]

Charity,But true religion is within yourself.What everyone else does is whatever they do.We are supposed to be “sojourners” not taking part in the worlds way.So, Charity and Stuart,Where are you both going?Stuart, do you believe it is possible that there is a God who created all things through His spirit and the power of the Spirit?Charity, do you…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Feb. 24 2013,10:08)So from the above we can see that:Jesus is the Lord.The Lord is the Spirit.The Spirit is the Holy Spirit.The Spirit is the one who knows the deep things of God.The Spirit is not some other God, but is God's own Spirit.My apologies Kerwin, I was meaning the post above as in page 15. (my post to T)!

So from the above we can see that:Jesus is the Lord.The Lord is the Spirit.The Spirit is the Holy Spirit.The Spirit is the one who knows the deep things of God.The Spirit is not some other God, but is God's own Spirit.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 24 2013,08:32)so be good to me ;and show me ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS THAT CHRIST JESUS ” HIS “” THE HOLY SPIRIT OR SHOW ME ONE SINGLE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS “” THE SON OF GOD /MAN “”HIS THE HOLY SPIRIT “” IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ONE SINGLE CLUE TO BACK YOU UP ,YOU ARE IN ERROR AND SO YOUR BELIEVE WOULD BE WRONG ,Hi T,You…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Feb. 24 2013,05:46)2besee………Yes the Gnostioc's believed Jesus was a Ghost who desgusied himself as a Human being, but really was a God who was sent out into the earth from the place of the Gods to straighten out the mess here. This was the First major false teaching that was infecting the Church and John and Paul…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 23 2013,22:45)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 21 2013,18:23)How do you not know that Jesus “coming in the flesh” does not mean as a man who was able to sin, but did not?Well, we know from tons of other scriptures that speak of the pre-existence of Christ.And we can also have a pretty good guess just from the words, “has come in the…[Read more]

(By “uninterrupted” I mean that, only I would like to post here for now — otherwise I will lose where I am up to!! thank you)

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2013,22:11)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,19:46)Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 23 2013,16:27)Quote (2besee @ Feb. 23 2013,06:46)Hi Ed,So, in what way do you believe that Jesus pre-existed as God?Hi 2Besee, In the way that there was only God.God blessEd J Hi Ed,So you believe that Jesus WAS the Father?Hi 2Besee, No, Jesus was part of…[Read more]

Anyway, as for this topic — obviously “in the flesh” has to do with the beliefs of the early Gnostics, and those beliefs 'crept into the church'. What i think I will do, is start up a bit of a study on the beliefs of the early Gnostics — according to the Apostolic writings.

Quote (charity @ Feb. 22 2013,19:27)I have been up working since the wee Hours of Morning. Im Tired but I would Like to say.Many christians feel they must not choose between Dvid an Mose, I need to express that this was Intercepted by the Roman Empire as a rising of excited Jews in hope of Seeing King Davids statues taking control of the throne,…[Read more]

If I have anything wrong it would be that Jesus was the Holy Spirit dressed in flesh, and I am somehow mixing it up. But I will be shown.

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 23 2013,13:21)this his why God SEND HIS ONLY SON DOWN TO EARTH TO PAID THE PRICE TO SAVE CREATION MADE THROUGH HIM ,THIS IS WHY IT SAYS ,HE CAME TO HIS OWN BUT THEY DID NOT RECOGNIZE HIM ,;;THIS HIS WHY CHRIST SAID HE COMES FROM THE FATHER,;THIS IS WHY CHRIST SAID THAT HE WILL RETURN TO HIS FATHER IF HE RETURN HE MUST HAVE…[Read more]