Galatians 4:6 “And because you are sons, God has sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, crying, “Abba! Father!”Mike, what spirit was sent?

Quote (kerwin @ June 14 2013,17:16)Quote (2besee @ June 14 2013,06:52)Mike,No scriptural support?“For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God”.”No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and…[Read more]

So how do you explain the Son of man being in heaven and still to come, but Jesus being here? You can't, can you.

“He who says a word against the Son of man can be forgiven, but he who says a word against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, in this age or in the age to come.””But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in the name of me (Jesus), he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.”

Mike, you are blind from seeing that those three scriptures are speaking of the same “beings”: God in one passage is the Father in the next; the Spirit in one passage is the Son in the next. The reason that you can NOT see it, is because you use your own intellect. God reveals nothing to us through our own intellect alone, but only through the…[Read more]

Mike,No scriptural support?“For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the spirit of the man which is in him? Even so the thoughts of God no one knows except the Spirit of God”.”No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.””For to us God revealed them…[Read more]

Kerwin,For the first time ever , I think that I disagree with you on that point. That seems to be suggesting multiple Gods are the “us”?

Wakeup,I have scriptural reason to believe that Lazarus did not die, but only some would understand my scriptural reasoning.As to your question: Mary and Joseph are never said to have been risen from the dead as Lazarus was. Lazarus was dead for four days.If you make claims which cannot be verified with scripture, them that is all it is: your…[Read more]

Okay, so we have:Collosians 1:19-20,For it was the good pleasure for all the fullness to dwell in Him, and Through Him to reconcile all things to Himself, having made peace through the blood of His cross; THROUGH Him, , whether things on earth or things in heaven.”Hebrews 9:14,”How much more will the blood of Christ, who THROUGH the eternal…[Read more]

Hi all, good points!

Wakeup,Where is your evidence that Lazarus went on to die? You have none. If you do, show us with scripture.

Read that verse in context Ed. Are you telling me that Paul was try to say that no living man around him, including you today is made of flesh and bone? Do you not have flesh and bone?

Quote (Ed J @ June 14 2013,03:12)Quote (2besee @ June 13 2013,22:46)Ed,Context and a better translation please.2Cor 5. From now on, therefore, we regard no one from a human point of view; even though we once regarded Christ from a human point of view, we regard him thus no longer. Therefore, if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ June 14 2013,01:26)Quote (2besee @ June 13 2013,23:01)Quote (2besee @ June 13 2013,18:41)Wakeup,Quote 4. A spirit body can materialise at any time;with permission. Jesus materialised in the flesh,to proof to his disciples that he was really Jesus Jesus showed them his hands and his feet to show them that He was not a spirit, which…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ June 13 2013,18:41)Wakeup,Quote 4. A spirit body can materialise at any time;with permission. Jesus materialised in the flesh,to proof to his disciples that he was really Jesus Jesus showed them his hands and his feet to show them that He was not a spirit, which is the opposite of what you are saying.See how wakeup will ignore…[Read more]

That was the RSV, now, tell me you do not understand that?

Ed,Context and a better translation please.2Cor 5. From now on, therefore, we regard no one from a human point of view; even though we once regarded Christ from a human point of view, we regard him thus no longer. Therefore, if any one is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has passed away, behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who…[Read more]

Hi Ed,This is one of those cruisey discussions where you think a lot. Think: tropical trees sunshine, harbor front! Time to think, no rush!I'm way over my “allocated data allowance”, so I'll have to hold of posting for a couple if days.

Quote (Ed J @ June 13 2013,19:29)Quote (2besee @ June 13 2013,16:58)Abe,I'm stuck.Please tell me what you think.Hi 2Besee, What are stuck on? Perhaps I can offer a suggestion.God blessEd Hi Ed J, Abe and Gene,I moved the discussion to here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y405534So we can keep up easier! Yes, please join in.

Typo on title…that was supposed to say “and anyone who would like to join in”!