Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 09 2013,16:31)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 09 2013,09:50)edjQuote 2) Col.1:16-17 refers to “The Father”, which is the subject starting in verse 12.I still waiting for you to honestly show me all Col 1 to 21 and show me where it is talking of God or Christ ,but you only say you do it but you did not ,and you have to interpret the…[Read more]

Quote I don't know what your beef isOn internet forums, completely ignoring another posters questions, whilst continuing to post to others, is considered to be rude! Putting a member on ignore is usually only a last resort for constant trollers.It seemed to me that you were avoiding the question asked, which is why I have put it on the hot…[Read more]

WJ,Regarding Philippians:Jesus being in the form of God I believe means that Jesus being perfect and sinless was in the form of God, as the second Adam, as was originally intended. And not only that, but he also had God within him, the spirit of God. So though he was Emmanuel, God with us, as a man, he was humble, and only did what his Father…[Read more]

Hi WJ,No. That does not answer my questions. I want YOUR answers, not some link. And if I wanted another members opinion, I would have asked them, not you. But I did not. I asked you.So, explain to me please, in your own words, without excuses. As for the verse that you quoted, I will touch upon that later today when I have some more time.What is…[Read more]

Moderators,WJ is completely avoiding answering my question.I asked the question HERE .The post was ignored by WJ, though he continued to post in that thread. So I bumped the post for him HERE .WJ again ignored my post though he continued posting in the thread.So I started this hot seat topic, leaving a note to him in the previous thread (In…[Read more]

Lightenup,No.Your answer does not make much sense to me, sorry.I think I will leave it for WJ to answer HERE   because I would like an answer from a trinitarian.So I will leave this thread for now.

So, Wj, do you want this to be a hot seat topic because you are still IGNORING my post completely!I will set it up as soon as I can.

Thank you Lightenup, but is WJ unable to answer himself?No, I did not see your reply earlier.I am subscribed to the topic and only read the email version (Reason being I am almost out of phone data).If it was not addressed to me, the quote does not show.I would like to hear an answer from a trinitarian.Then I may ask others.

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 06 2013,15:15)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 04 2013,14:55)WJ,Numbers  23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?God is not a man.Before you say that that was BEFORE He became a man – That cannot be, because…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Aug. 04 2013,14:55)WJ,Numbers  23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?God is not a man.Before you say that that was BEFORE He became a man – That cannot be, because God does not change.Malachi  3:6 “…[Read more]

Terraricca and Mike and all, I'm out of data again for a week. Be back to the conversations later.

Quote Again you are quoting many scriptures that I am well familiar with and so are the others ,but what I am looking for is your understanding of what the word SPIRIT means and does it mean in all circumstances the same thingsTerraricca,As we are talking about God's own spirit here. God's own Spirit is the very spirit within him, which searches…[Read more]

Hi Ed J, It shows up perfectly on my phone. But, okay.

WJ,Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie, nor the son of man, that he should repent. Has he said, and will he not do it? Or has he spoken, and will he not make it good?God is not a man.Before you say that that was BEFORE He became a man – That cannot be, because God does not change.Malachi 3:6 “I, Yahweh, do not change…..”James…[Read more]

Mike,I will return to your other posts later on.

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,06:15)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2013,03:59)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,05:32)The one and the same spirit is called:The Spirit of God,The Holy Spirit,The Eternal Spirit,The Spirit of Christ,The Spirit of the Son.As Paul explained, there is only ONE SPIRIT – it us ONE AND THE SAME SPIRIT.If you do not include the…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,04:55)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 04 2013,01:46)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,01:28)Quote (2besee @ Aug. 03 2013,17:41)Terraricca,How much JW literature have you read? Please be honest!2beeWhy do I have to be honest, am I an liar or dishonest most of the time And what are the JW or ? To do with anything I have stopped religion…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,04:02)Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 03 2013,20:52)Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 04 2013,01:28)I have stopped religion formatting 40 years agoWere you a JW 40 years ago?No I was studying with the Armstrong ,the so called Church of God'Hi Terraricca,For how long?They believe as the JWs do, regarding the Holy Spirit.

Terraricca,How much JW literature have you read? Please be honest!

Terraricca,Those are all different names or titles of the one spirit.It is all in scripture.Are you having such difficulty understanding this?The one and the same spirit is called:The Spirit of God,The Holy Spirit,The Eternal Spirit,The Spirit of Christ,The Spirit of the Son.As Paul explained, there is only ONE SPIRIT – it us ONE AND THE SAME…[Read more]