T8,
You said,
Quote “The word theos is applied to not only
the Most High God but others. Jesus
quoted, “ye are gods” from “ye are
elohim, ye are all sons of the Most High
God”.
Why does the term “most High Theos”
even exist if ‘theos’ can only apply to
the Most High?” Unquote.

This has nothing to do with John 1:1.

If you really seek…[Read more]

T8,

“God” is a title.
There are many that are CALLED gods.

To the followers of Christ, such as John, there is only one true God.
So, when John says “The word was with God and the word WAS God” … He means it, and most certainly would of had that in mind, and would not have had the mindset of there being ‘Multiple True Gods’!

-The…[Read more]

Mike, t8,

“In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was God”.

“In the beginning was the word, the word was with God, and the word was a god”.

The spirit shows us that the JW translation is incorrect.
Your mind will not show us ANYTHING.

I am not a Trinitarian, but a Spirit Christologist. Trinitarian though is closer.

David,
The teachings here are “Arian”, not “Unitarian”. There is a difference.

Becky,
Regarding the JWs denial of the power of the Holy Spirit – Read what Jesus said in Matthew chapter 12.

T8,
There are three.
God.. The Eternal Spirit..and Christ. (Hebrews 9:14).

Becky,
You “find my words about the JWs very upsetting”? That they deny the power of God?
I have entertained the JWs half of my life, invited them into my home, chatted every week, etc, and I tell you – they DENY THE POWER of God.
Tell them something God has done (healing etc) and they will say Satan does the same, and God doesn’t do that…[Read more]

Jesus came from Heaven, Spirit gives birth to Spirit, Jesus was the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit became one with the perfect flesh of man (The second Adam – The son of man).

Jesus is in Heaven and is to come. The Holy Spirit was sent and is with us until the end.

It’s simple stuff when God shows you.

Knowledge will pass away, love will…[Read more]

T8 thanks for your reply, but does John 1:1 speak of one God, or two God’s, to you? Because, you know that to the Christian of the early days, there was only one God.

This could not mean two God’s/theos.

God’s word/spirit, was a part of God (was with God – John 1:1)) – do you agree, or disagree?

There is only one true God.
God has his Word, also called the Spirit of God.
It is God’s own Spirit, just as you have a spirit (still you).
The Spirit/Word was with God and was God.
The World was created through God’s Spirit (Genesis 1:1).
Jesus said “If you have seen me, you have seen the Father”.

I’m reading through the Bible and am up…[Read more]

I understand this now.

Is God behind the gathering to Israel?

Concentrate.

“Beware of the false prophets, who
come to you in sheep’s clothing, but
inwardly are ravenous wolves.
“You will know them by their fruits.
Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
“So every good tree bears good fruit,…[Read more]

Not sure if this sent so excuse if double posted.

The early church did not believe that God would be behind a future re-gathering of the Jews to Israel. To the contrary they believed “the antichrist” would be behind a future regathering of the Jews to Israel.

They all agreed on this.

Here’s some examples..

“Christ arose from among…[Read more]

As for the nation of Israel, that is for God to know, not us. It will be revealed in its time, not now. When they had come together, they askedhim, “Lord, will you at this time restore thekingdom to Israel?” He said to them, “It isnot for you to know times or seasons thatthe Father has fixed by his own authority. (Acts 1:6-7)

Terraricca and Wakeup, I don't have time to post at the moment, but regarding Israel : Israel is made up of Jew and Gentile today. “There is neither Jew nor Gentile”. So all 'Israel' will be saved (Those who trust in Christ and obey God's commandments).God has not rejected those of Jewish blood. The door is open for them, as well as the Gentile.…[Read more]

Hi all I'm going to have to get back to any posts in about a week. (David, Mike, Wakeup, etc).

Quote Besee.We all get carried away sometimes.I also have done the same.Thanks.wakeup.Thanks Wakeup.

Quote (Wakeup @ Sep. 30 2013,03:00)Quote (2besee @ Sep. 29 2013,17:51)Wakeup, sorry. Did you not teach that to be born again of “water” is NOT water baptism? Did you not say that being born again of water is being born from your mothers womb?Besee.There is no such as born again of water,this is an invention of religion with no understanding.Born…[Read more]

Quote scriptures says flesh and blood can not go toheaven ;nature will tell you thatTerraricca,Nature ALSO tells us that flesh cannot be thrown into a fiery oven, and not be burnt. However, with God, anything is possible.So if God choose to change human flesh into a new resurrected type which is capable of things which we could not even imagine -…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Sep. 29 2013,21:42)Quote (2besee @ Sep. 29 2013,05:29)Wakeup, you are a deceiver AND YOU KNOW IT.2besee,A gentler rebuke might serve God better.  For example the teachings you choose to hold to are false and you should know it.  We are to slow to anger and in our anger we are not to sin.  Lessons I too am learning.Kerwin yes yo…[Read more]

Wakeup, sorry. Did you not teach that to be born again of “water” is NOT water baptism? Did you not say that being born again of water is being born from your mothers womb?

Wakeup,I have a whole thread to show that you disagreed with water baptism being a commandment of Jesus and the disciples, etc.Should we revisit it? No!

Terraricca,I believe that Jesus was raised from the dead in the flesh and bone. He was not a spirit. He then ascended to Heaven, and was presented before God.Touch me and see. A spirit does not have flesh and bone like you see that I have.Do not hold on to me , for I have not yetascended to the Father. (John 20:17)Then I saw a Lamb, lookingas if…[Read more]