2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
What is your belief in Holy Spirit? (t8)
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
The fact is that your are opposing me, without really knowing why.Let’s look at your points:
You will refute anyone who does the following:
1) Teach anyone else but the Father as being the one true God;
2) Teach anyone else but Jesus Yeshua as being the appointed Lord of all;
3) Teach plural persons as being the one true God;
4)…[Read more]2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
But, wait a minute : isn’t it YOU who opposes the rest?
I mean, if I say I believe in one thing, then you imply that I or others don’t follow the Bible… !?All I said was that I disagree with the JWs, for a reason.
Do you think my reason is not good enough?
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
So what Christian opposes that?
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
It is not about what MAN says he is but what GOD says he is..
It’s not what T8 reveals, it’s not what Mike reveals, it’s not what Sir Isaac Newton reveals or the Watchtower, but what GOD reveals to each individual person if they are willing enough to put aside their own opinions and knowledge.
Put away your Books!2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8, Yes, I believe your vision completely…
So, you were Trinitarian when you had your vision.
I was ‘I don’t know what’ when I experienced similar – Just a person drawn to God and scripture.A question i have is : Do Arians have visions and dreams? I don’t know… I’m asking because JWs don’t believe in them (You were not Arian when you…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
Thank you, but you are still not answering my question.
It is as if to you, everything has become “Trinity v Arianism”?Perhaps I am not being clear enough.
I can listen to sermons (some, not all) by Trinitarians and feel the spirit in what they say.
Lately, I have been listening to Paul Washer, for an…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8 said
Quote “Yes I have heard many sermons on the Trinity. And not once have I felt God Spirit witness it as truth.”T8, I did not ask if you had heard sermons (specifically) on the Trinity, but if you had heard sermons SPOKEN by Trinitarians, and felt the power in them. (such as sermons on Heaven, or eschatology, or on Jesus, etc).
Or,…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8, No.. you do not agree with me.
You believe that Jesus is a god, a second pre-existent god, among many gods, and the Holy Spirit is……?……. you never mention the Holy Spirit, that I have seen, neither does Mike. So I assume you see ‘that’ as the JWs do too.I believe that Jesus was a man, and did not pre-exist. However…. I believe…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Becky,
Okay.
Why did I single out the JWs?
They are the only (large) Christian denomination that I have heard of who believe/teach as they do regarding the Holy Spirit.. specifically the belief that God today does not give the gifts of the Holy Spirit, nor healing, nor dreams nor visions, etc, and that Satan is behind it.
They are the only…[Read more]2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8 said, quote….”Cheers. I consider what everyone says too. It is how I have learned most of what I know now. But as you say, the greatest teacher is the Spirit. But I believe that God teaches us through others. So we need to hear what others say, but let the Spirit have the final say” unquote.
T8,
Truth is ‘not only’ knowledge of who God…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
DavidL said:
Quote: “I have no interest in Biblical scholarship – only in the discernment of truth to which such Theological study is nothing more than a boring distraction and a complete and utter waste of time…”
“so tell me again – How did Peter, this uneducated fisherman reach such a profound conclusion about Christ..?
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Oh, that’…[Read more]2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
Yes, your post is worth thinking about later.2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
I never assumed that you disagree (with the spirit as the teacher). I was simply pointing out that I have noticed that the moment a person anywhere takes on the position of a teacher: the moment one shows them the scripture that says we have no need for a teacher, for the Holy Spirit is the teacher: they get angry!! (I’m talking about on…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Becky,
Do you find it also sad that Paul refers to people in the last days as “Having a form of godliness, but denying its power : from such turn away”?I find it odd that you say that I am judging and excluding people when I just finished saying yesterday that I have welcomed Jehovah’s Witnesses most of my life, and have friends who are…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
The problem is, as I see it, you are making God’s word in John 1:1 another being. So, when you read that in the beginning was the word, you are thinking of a separate being to God.
I do not see it like that. I see God’s word as God’s spoken word. “God in various ways and at various times has spoken through..etc…… But in these last days,…[Read more]2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Quote “Right, so you have the truth and I do not because. Just because right?” Unquote.
T8, I am not a teacher and I do not claim to have all truth. Do you?
We are were only talking about John 1:1.
I sense the need for agreement with you, and the typically seen reaction toward the fact that we do not need a teacher, because the Holy…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
Becky,
I did not say they do not have the spirit of God. Show me where I said that.
What I did say is that they DENY the spirit and the power of the spirit, which they do.The person of the Holy Spirit:
The reason I said to google it, is because I only have a mobile, so my days of quoting large amount of scriptures have gone.But okay,…[Read more]
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
T8,
Please stop thinking, and just allow God to teach you 😀
People THINK too much about this.
Just connect with God in spirit, is my last words for today!
2besee replied to the topic What is your confession regarding Jesus in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 11 years, 3 months ago
False teachings are misleading, only those who mislead believe they have the truth, as history shows.
We have no need for a teacher, because the Holy Spirit leads us into ALL truth.- Load More