Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 20 2012,13:47)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 19 2012,03:51)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And FINALLY, are you suggesting that YHVH changed His name to “Jesus”?  NO!!! Jesus means YAH SAVES.Hi 2B,There are many things I wish to address concerning your latest posts – such as Jesus being begotten when he was raised from the dead.  (1 John 4…[Read more]

typo, that was meant to be — 'Do you understand the 'Word' to be the 'spoken word of God' OR the Holy Spirit, or both…

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 20 2012,17:27)The Spirit is the Son of God in the same way Wisdom is said to be his Daughter.  Scripture uses personification in teaching and once personified both the Spirit and Wisdom can be said to be sired by God because they come from him.Hi Kerwin. So when it says in parts of scripture such as in Paul — that the world…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 20 2012,17:27)I have browsed the Shepherd and believe the writer talks too much though he seems to have gems buried in his many words.He does go on a lot, but the spirit is there. As you say, 'gems buried in his many words'!

Hi Kerwin.Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 20 2012,17:27) The Spirit is the Son of God in the same way Wisdom is said to be his Daughter.  Scripture uses personification in teaching and once personified both the Spirit and Wisdom can be said to be sired by God because they come from him.So that is in a way putting a mans view on something which is not of man…[Read more]

From Wikipedia:'In parable 5, the author mentions a Son of God, as a virtuous man filled with a Holy “pre-existent spirit” and adopted as the Son. In the 2nd century, adoptionism (the view that Jesus Christ was only a mortal man) was one of two competing doctrines about Jesus' true nature, the other being that he pre-existed as a divine spirit…[Read more]

Hi Mike, I will give your post more thought, later on…

Wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shepherd_of_Hermas

Forgot the link:http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/text/shepherd.html

Hi KERWIN. I don't know where the thread is — but in one thread, you were speaking about the Holy Spirit being also called the Son (or something to that effect)…..I was editing a site the other day and just happened to be editing something called the Shepherd. It was (apparently) one of the most important writings in the earliest Church…. and…[Read more]

'Now, little children, remain in him, that when he appears, we may have boldness, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.'

We love Jesus, Jesus went through the same sufferings, similar, to what we did and have and still will go through. We can understand Jesus and Jesus can understand us. He was as Human as you and I. He was tempted. He could have failed, but He did not.Jesus is our friend, our Brother and our elder. He has a God too, and a Father. His God is our God…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 20 2012,04:37)2besee………..Me and Kerwin both agree with you about Jesus not preexisting his berth on this earth. This DOCTRINE of “SEPARATION” that has infected the church from the very beginning  started by the Gnostic's, and now the Trinitarians and Protestants and  JW'S. In fact There is hardly no d…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 09 2012,04:51)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 08 2012,16:25)<!–QuoteBegin–terraricca+Dec. 08 2012,17:55–>Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 08 2012,17:55)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 08 2012,09:07) Do Angels create, and if so, can you show me a scripture that says that they do?Thank-you.2dddoes a carpenter in construction create the project or just…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 20 2012,05:09)you say;when He was raised from the deadNot I , T, the Scriptures.Jesus was 'begotten' on the day that He was raised from the dead. That is what scriptures say, not I!Quote tell me who else did God ever called someone “MY SON ” Has God ever called anybody else 'A Son'? Yes, T.Angels.Israel.Adam.Begotten Sons…[Read more]

Hi Bod, sorry I took so long. Interesting. I need to give that more thought.

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 19 2012,12:54)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 19 2012,05:53)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 19 2012,11:08)Gene, when are YOU going to acknowledge that the Word BECAME flesh, and start aligning your understanding around the actual words John wrote – without having to add your own word into the verse?lol.Mike, and all, I will catch up soon…[Read more]

Gene and Kerwin, thank you, points noted.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 12 2012,15:09)Hi 2B,I realize you are busy.  When you get the chance, please address the following post from Dec 8th, so we can then move on down the line of John 1………………….John 1:12 Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—What name is it we…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 09 2012,11:20)SECONDLY, the Hebrew words “immanuel” mean “God IS with us.  The only people who try to say it means “God with us” are Trinitarians, who want Jesus to BE the very God he is the Son of.THIRDLY, compare the phrase “God is with us” in 2 Chronicles 13:12 and Isaiah 8:10.  Does the phrase mean that God Almighty H…[Read more]