T, I rather believe what I know to be true in myself.God bless.

T, it does not say that.It says “If the dead will not be raised, what point is there in people being baptized for those who are dead? Why do it unless the dead will someday rise again?”if there is no resurrection, why then are people being baptized FOR the dead (already dead without having the chance to be water baptized).This is my understanding.…[Read more]

“If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.” And to anybody,If Baptism is NOT AN ESSENTIAL PART OF BEING BORN AGAIN…. why were they baptizing for the dead?1Cor 15:29,”If the dead will not be raised, what point is there in people being baptized for those who are dead? Why do it unless the dead…[Read more]

I don't know what threads I'm in, lol.Never mind.

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 11 2013,21:48)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,08:59)Why is this being discussed in three different threads?I refuse to be in three different threads discussing the same thing!!I am here: https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y3827692Besee.Because prophesies and biblical teachings can not be seperated.You have to go from one to the…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05)God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.I agree with Kerwin

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 01 2013,04:01)Mike……..Here is the Scripture i was referring to.Act 20: 28…..> Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the HOLY GHOST has made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he (?) has purchased with his own blood.Was this referencing God or Jesus or both? It seems…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 31 2012,05:17)Quote (2besee @ Dec. 29 2012,17:46)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 30 2012,05:37)So who sacrificed their FLESH?  God's Son, the Holy Spirit?  Mike, only one had flesh and that was the Man Jesus  – the begotten Son of God – the anointed – the Christ. Holy Spirit is Spirit, just as God is also Spirit. Spirit gives bi…[Read more]

Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,20:47)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 07 2013,16:47)Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,01:49)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:25)Hi 2besee,Quote YOU three believe that the dead will be raised as Spirits, not flesh…. Is that correct?The resurrected (the saved) will be resurrected as spirit creatures just like the angels…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,19:49)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,15:58)Compass points. Meaning all parts of the Earth.Oh yes, I actually did know about that interpretation. And it is certainly a likely contender.If the whole Earth is Gog and Magog, then why not one name?New Zealand was called Aotearoa by the Maori (native people) of New Zealand.So I…[Read more]

Flesh = Carnal.Spirit = Spiritual.Seek ye first the kingdom of God And His righteousness And all these things shall be added unto you Allelu, alleluia(Song I sang on stage aged…. 11 – such a beautiful song).

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 11 2013,16:57)How do we SEE the kingdom of God?The prophets were given VISIONS,and the scriptures give us a glimpse also,we've been shown bits and pieces, but truly, has any man ever seen God's heavenly kingdom and all it's glory with his own eyes?Has any man here ever been there in heaven??Has any man ever seen the face of…[Read more]

Journey, you can be in the flesh (material) and also be in the spirit NOW.

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,14:52)you are wrong to say that the heavenly Jerusalem would be on earth read this scriptures ;;;Rev 21:1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. Rev 21:2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,14:35)Quote What is the “Four corners of the Earth” t8?I have heard that when you place a perfect circle over the circumference of the Earth, that 4 bits stick out because the Earth is not a perfect circle and is flattened at the poles.Also, the Book of Enoch talks about the 4 winds. It could be where they originate.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 11 2013,14:33)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,13:19)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2013,19:09)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:59)Gog and Magog is the whole world.Do you live in Gog or Magog?I live in Gog and Magog. So do you.What is the “Four corners of the Earth” t8?Usually you live in one place. But you live in both.I come from New Zealand.…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2013,13:53)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 10 2013,17:36)Mike, I agree with you, on this point.You SHOULD agree with me on all points, 2B, because I'm never wrong.  I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.  Ha ha me too!

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,13:31)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,05:19)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2013,19:09)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:59)Gog and Magog is the whole world.Do you live in Gog or Magog?I live in Gog and Magog. So do you.What is the “Four corners of the Earth” t8?2beeRev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2013,12:30)Ed,The first bolded part explains that, at the time Paul wrote these words, the believers were STILL awaiting the second coming of Jesus Christ – even though many of them, including Paul himself, had already received the Holy Spirit.  This should tell you that receiving the Holy Spirit is NOT the second…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2013,19:09)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:59)Gog and Magog is the whole world.Do you live in Gog or Magog?I live in Gog and Magog. So do you.What is the “Four corners of the Earth” t8?