Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,02:14)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,20:19)Hi Ed,To me, the RSV is one of the most accurate translations that we have.I have compared many verses and seen the difference, and I trust my RSV.NOT the KJV, not from what I have been shown. The NKJV is a continuation of the KJV is it not?Hi Wakeup, NO, the NKJV is yet another…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,03:56)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,03:12)Mike, I will definitely go with “Son”.Okay 2B.  You prefer “son”, and Ed prefers “son”.  Kerwin is undecided, and I believe either word fits the context just fine.So let's just go with “son” for now.Your understanding is that John was writing about the Word of God from v…[Read more]

Let me correct that last line so that it makes more sense…There are many 'so called gods' separate from the Father who is the only true God with Jesus who now works with God the father in authority and can also rightly be called God (remember the stories in the OT where Angels were also called YHVH).But, people make other things their gods…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,03:33)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,02:35)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2013,04:26) Now if Jesus said “only” then that means there are no others……..Amen Gene, I agree Mike with Gene. Good points.But then you make a dilemma for yourself, 2B, because you've already acknowledged in this thread the fact that Jesus…[Read more]

For everything there is a flesh (reality) and there is also a spiritual (so somebody once told me)

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,23:22)2Besee.The temple will be build by the jews in in jereusalem.The false prophet is going to do the destruction of the dome for the jews. But he will sit in that temple as God.The war between the kings of the north(europe) and the kings of the south(muslems) is because of this dome destroyed.This will be the 3rd…[Read more]

“No flesh would be saved” is the correct translation.

Wakeup,The Temple is the Body.(I would find the verses but I am too tired – you know them).Jesus will come at a time when is least expected1Thes.5 But as to the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need to have anything written to you. For you yourselves know well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. When people…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 13 2013,23:11)EdJ.NOT CORRECT.Who was sitting next to God,is it the HOLY SPIRIT  or is it JESUS?Psalms 110:1   The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, UNTILL I MAKE THINE ENEMIES THY FOOT STOOL. WAS GOD SPEAKING TO THE HOLY SPIRIT?Hi Wakeup.Yes, Jesus was sitting next to God, whilst the Holy Spirit is v…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,22:08)Hi 2Besee,  If all books are the same, why not get your truth from a comic book?  (Link)God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,To me, the RSV is one of the most accurate translations that we have.I have compared many verses and seen the difference, and I trust my RSV.NOT the KJV, not f…[Read more]

Mike, I will definitely go with “Son”.My RSV reads: “No one has ever seen God; the only Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, he has made him known.”'The begotten God' does not seem right to me.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,03:56)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 11 2013,09:35)I can see where the Greek may be translated as such though from what you write the word “Son” is not explicitly written.Hi Kerwin,You need to delve a little deeper.  In some Greek mss, the words are “monogenes theos” (only begotten god), and in other Greek mss, the words…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,04:35)Mike, 2beesee,The NIV states the following.John 1:18New International Version (NIV)18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.Footnotes:    John 1:18 Some manuscripts but the only Son, whoI can see where the Greek m…[Read more]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 12 2013,04:26)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2013,11:24)(Look at it this way:  If you prefer “only begotten god”, like you've so far indicated, you are making my job way easier.   )Mike……….Can't you see you are dwelling on something that can be taken different way, and forcing it to meet your rendition of what you w…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,01:36)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,09:35)Hi all, I believe without doubt that the day of the Lord (The return of Jesus) will come, “burning like an oven”, and you eitherHi 2Besee,”The Day of the LORD” means “The Day of YHVH”. Which is the “Feast of Tabernacles”.”Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 11 2013,13:24)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 10 2013,16:35)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)In verse 18, is John still talking about the Word from verse one?  YES or NO?No, it is talking about Jesus.Hi 2B,Thank you for your answer. I understand that you like Biblos.com, and base much of your Greek understanding on that site.  (I like it also, a…[Read more]

Devo,Herbert Armstrong also teaches something very similar to what you three are teaching. Are you certain that none of you has watched any of the Herbert Armstrong branch videos or television presentations (eg. 'The Living Church of God' presentations)Watch that you are not deceived.Know that there could be an imposter and listen to the words or…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,20:15)Hi Wakeup,                Revelation 19:11-21 is about the “HolySpirit”.                Compare Isaiah 63:2-11 with Rev.19:11-15                       “The Word” is the “HolySpirit”!                             And “HolySpirit” is HE and I !                                   Rev. 19:13 He was clothed with a vest…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 13 2013,20:24)Still, be careful how you judge (Matthew 12:22-37) be wise and seek Gods council as to these days that we are in (a very confusing time).Hi Ed, my post was not in reply to your post, it was to Wakeup.

Still, be careful how you judge (Matthew 12:22-37) be wise and seek Gods council as to these days that we are in (a very confusing time).