Written by the saints and martyrs of the earliest Church for anyone who has ears to hear truth.“Those who are convinced that what we teach is true and who desire to live accordingly are instructed to fast and to pray to God for the remission of all their past sins. We also pray and fast with them. Then we bring them to a place where there is w…[Read more]

Ed, I leave you to your group, good luck.

Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 17 2013,01:10)The early church? Please explain. Quote Is this letter of Barnabas in our bible? Quote Who is this speaking?  Somebody heard something from someone else they do not know.  We have the scriptures and we know exactly who said what, because the holy apostles were appointed by Christ himself.  This is not ev…[Read more]

Hi Wakeup.Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 17 2013,00:04) 2Besee.Those Churches back then are already being corrupted,if you read the letters to the churches.you will see that they are all being warned by Jesus.But, it was common knowledge handed down from the Disciples and from Jesus himself that water baptism was to be born again.Quote batism is not born…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 28 2011,11:13)Born of water is being interpreted as babtism?Yes Wakeup.Being born again is being born of water baptism and born of the spirit. Amen!

WHAT IF YOU ARE WRONG JOURNEY.READ IT PLEASE! It is important I am sure.

Journey, we have given you scriptures, plenty of scriptures.Perhaps if you read this, especially the writings regarding baptism of the earliest church, you would see that being born again has always been understood by the Disciples and from the earliest time to mean Baptism in water (by immersion) and spirit.

It seems that you are all teaching wrong. Being born again begins with baptism in water.Quote from early church:  “The consequence is, that a viper of the Cainite heresy, lately conversant in this quarter, has carried away a great number with her most venomous doctrine, making it her first aim to destroy baptism. Which is quite in accordance with…[Read more]

The Early Church on Water Baptism.The Letter of Barnabas, 75 AD“Regarding , we have the evidence of Scripture that Israel would refuse to accept the washing which confers the remission of sins and would set up a substitution of their own instead. Hermas, 80 AD“‘I have heard, sir,’ said I, ‘from some teacher, that there is no other repentanc…[Read more]

BOD,NO, that does not strike me as part of the mystery because I do believe that Jesus was crucified, and that Jesus was risen from the dead, so that is NOT a mystery to me – nobody “took his place” BOD!Now, if Lazarus is true, and as Lazarus is “the one who Jesus loved the most”, WHY.That aside, if there are any doubts or contradictions or things…[Read more]

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,12:02)So? 2Besee? where are you hiding?And the rest.wakeup.Wakeup,Hiding? Me? No! Busy (Plus my eyes get sore from looking at a computer screen!).

Wakeup, Journey and Devo, read your posts, thanks.tell me, how long have you been studying (together) for?

Wakeup, Journey and Devo,1) I do not follow the SDA teachings on prophecy, I do not even KNOW what they teach (much) but, one or two things that they do teach I agree with partly. So, can you please stop saying that I follow the SDA teachings, because, I don't. Thank-you.2) Journey, I did enjoy talking to you, but…. then nothing that I said…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 15 2013,13:26)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 14 2013,15:04)Hi EdJ, The Day of the Lord (Return of Jesus) has not come yet, all of the writers in the NT were waiting for the day (future) and explanations were given as to what that day would be………………….Good post, 2B.Thanks Mike, yours were good too!

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 16 2013,10:58)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 16 2013,03:53)Wakeup, now you may understand 'baptism for the dead'.2bband what is your understanding of it Hi T,MY understanding of baptism for the dead is this:Firstly, I believe that baptism is an important step (first) to accepting Jesus into your life (I say Jesus because it is in…[Read more]

Wakeup, now you may understand 'baptism for the dead'.

Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 16 2013,10:45)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 16 2013,08:41)Wakeup, I understand clearly what Jesus said, and what the Disciples said, without adding anything to their words.2Besee.Good; then why dont you fit in those scriptures into your beloved doctrine.And show me. NO.YOU CAN NOT.wakeup.Wakeup, I don't have a doctrine, which is why I…[Read more]

“So it will be at the close of the age. The angels will come out and separate the evil from the righteous,and throw them into the furnace of fire; there men will weep and gnash their teeth.”Have you understood all this?” They said to him, “Yes.”

Wakeup, I understand clearly what Jesus said, and what the Disciples said, without adding anything to their words.

Wakeup, Can you fit in all of Jesus and the Disciples words (into your dispesationalist view)?The Jews have a second chance according to you, as do all people.No.THE DAY OF SALVATION IS NOW.Now is when you should be trying to 'save people' before 'the end' comes.Not according to your doctrine.