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    And that eternal spirit is the Holy Spirit.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,14:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 22 2013,19:05)Hi 2besee,I don't think that he realizes or appreciates that the Son directly created all things.Go get her, 2B!  :)  Tell her who the scriptures say created all things.Kathi, read the words of Tertullian once again.  There is ONE who created, and ANOTHER through whom th…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,14:06)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 21 2013,18:28)Are you ready to accept the scriptures that clearly call Jesus a god, while understanding that although he is a god (mighty one), he is the THE God, Jehovah?Thank goodness that you all realized my words above were a typo!Of course I meant to say, “that although he is a…[Read more]

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    Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,14:05)Hi 2besee,What Mike said in the above post on the top of this page, ultimately amounts to saying that Jesus directly created all things and the Father indirectly created all things. Mike thinks that Jesus is the only thing that the Father directly created even though the Bible says that Jesus is the only…[Read more]

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    They seemed to understand 'the word' as being God's own word as spoken through His own mouth, just as we were saying.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,13:51)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 22 2013,14:28)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,09:08)Mike, so if according to you, another god made the earth too,Correction, according to you and others, through. (same thing).I disagree that it is the “same thing”, 2B.Tertullian wrote:  He who creates is one, and he through whom the thing…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,13:26)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 22 2013,14:19)Yet Mike, you say that 'God's word' which it says in the OT is spoken through 'God's own mouth', is another god.The word of God came to many people through various ways (Heb 1:1-2).  In fact, we can read the written word of God on a daily bases, if we choose to do so.  On t…[Read more]

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    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,13:02)Mike, men do not want to believe that God is eternal and his son came from him.The Antichrist spirit denies the son, so people under that influence will deny the son in word and deed. Even Islam does this.People will argue that Jesus is God, a 200 year old created man, and a number of other excuses to deny that truth…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,12:59)Hi 2B,First of all, read Jeremiah 10 in context. I did (read Jeremiah 10 in context), which is how I found that particular verse. I was looking for something unrelated (to do with Christmas).Quote Secondly, understand that angels of Jehovah are called gods in scripture (as you yourself have pointed out in…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 23 2013,12:44)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 22 2013,11:45)I met Mike and so hope was made flesh.Okay, good.  Now at least you are using the word “was” in your sample.  Can you find me an example from anywhere in history where someone wrote similar words that would give creedence to your example sentence?I have a good example. Two p…[Read more]

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    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,09:19)Isaiah 55″For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,and return not thither but water the earth,making it bring forth and sprout,giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater, so shall my word be that goes forth from my mouth;it shall not return to me empty,but it shall accomplish that which I…[Read more]

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    Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,09:34)John 1:31599 Geneva Bible (GNV)3 All things were made by it, and without it was made nothing that was made.Hi Kerwin,Here is the Greek:http://biblos.com/john/1-3.htmAnd if you click on the Greek word to the left 846 autos it can also be “it or the same”.

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    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,09:08)Mike, so if according to you, another god made the earth too,Correction, according to you and others, through. (same thing).Remember that Hebrews chapter and the Greek translation, where it could say that the earth was made for or on account of, where translations have it as by or through.

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    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,09:05)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,13:28)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,21:59)I would not say or think 'It is God' because I know that God is 'God'.I need to work more on this.Ah, that's better.So now what?  Are you ready to accept the scriptures that clearly call Jesus a god, while understanding that although he is…[Read more]

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    Mike, so if according to you, another god made the earth too, then according to that verse, that god will perish from the earth and under the heavens?God made the earth and the heavens it says by his power, his wisdom, and his understanding.

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,13:28)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 20 2013,21:59)I would not say or think 'It is God' because I know that God is 'God'.I need to work more on this.Ah, that's better.So now what?  Are you ready to accept the scriptures that clearly call Jesus a god, while understanding that although he is a god (mighty one), he is the THE…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 22 2013,14:09)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 21 2013,13:04)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 21 2013,21:38)2beeQuote e: 2)Who came from the Father?2besee: The eternal spirit son (the Holy Spirit) came from the Father. question is “WHO ”  NOT WHAT”T,That is why it is a leading question, assuming the one asking does not understand that…[Read more]

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    Unless you think that you are one of the two prophets (witnesses)?

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    Wakeup, the false prophet or false Jesus will also work signs and miracles, even raise the dead apparently.So how would you truly know?You wouldn't know.

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    2besee replied to the topic Born of water. in the forum Prophecy 13 years, 3 months ago

    Marty. we both believe in water baptism, so that is a good thing :) even if, again, we don't see it exactly the same way, we agree on some things!

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