Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,19:46)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 27 2013,12:33)Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,19:24)2beeQuote I will stick with what GOD has shown me, not what man has shown me!if what you believe is not the truth according to scriptures then who was it that give you the understanding is it not the one that as his face into the…[Read more]

Mike and T,IF GOD COULD CREATE, AND GIVE LIFE, TO THIS WHOLE WORLD………………..(pause and think about it)……………… COULD HE NOT ALSO, WHEN ALONE, BEGET ANOTHER BEING, FROM HIMSELF, WHO IS SEPARATE FROM HIM, AND IS ALSO A PART OF HIM, BECAUSE THAT PART CAME FROM HIM, AND THAT PART OF HIM, IS THE HOLY SPIRIT, AND THEN GOD MADE MAN IN…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 27 2013,19:24)2beeQuote I will stick with what GOD has shown me, not what man has shown me!if what you believe is not the truth according to scriptures then who was it that give you the understanding is it not the one that as his face into the mirror of God  but turns away and quickly forgets what he saw,if your believe…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,15:13)So then “the Word”, who became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten, could not possibly have been the Holy Spirit, right?I have already given you my view, Mike, and I have already answered this question many times it is not my fault if you do not accept it. What I believe is what I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 27 2013,15:31)So “the Holy Ghost” is the one who created all things?  Not the Father, and not Jesus?   Hmmmmm…………..The Holy Spirit created all things Mike, God created all things through the Holy Spirit and through his word. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form and v…[Read more]

CHAPTER 2.78. “Hear the similitude which I am about to narrate to you relative to fasting. A certain man had a field and many slaves, and he planted a certain part of the field with a vineyard, and selecting a faithful and beloved and much valued slave, he called him to him, and said, 'Take this vineyard which I have planted, and stake it until I…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,21:57)Hi 2Besee, The Shepherd of Hermas is not canon.God blessEd J (Joshua 22:34)http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgIs there a simile here for rolled eyes??Ed, the point is – that “The Shepherd” was considered as canon until they decided against it at the First Council of Nicaea 325, if I remember rightly.Why was it so…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,22:00)2beVery good,that is a good selection ,now can you tell me if the holy spirit his a beingOr not  From those scriptures you showed meYes the Holy Spirit is a being but the Holy Spirit is God — a part of God,  Do not think like men completely because we are talking here about God who is much much much more t…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2013,18:51)2besee,You asked what version of John 1:18 I used…the NASB.Okay,

Hi Mike,I will have get to your post in a day or two,but just as an aside, and an investigation into “Hermas”, here are some facts:From Wikipedia:The Shepherd of Hermas is a Christian literary work of the 1st or 2nd century, considered a valuable book by many Christians, and considered canonical scripture by some of the early Church fathers such…[Read more]

Quote God is from everlasting,his Word is in him from everlsting, The Holy spirit is in him from everlasting, his Wisdom is in him from everlasting,his Caracter is in him from everlasting, and his ethics is in him from everlasting. God is one.See Wakeup, with this that you post, as an example, I do say “Amen”—-And Abe, good verses that you use.

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,17:35)2beewere is that scripture that says that THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS” IN “JESUS CHRIST T, Holy Spirit in Jesus whilst the Father was in Heaven but also was in Him… You have to add it up.Luke 4 And Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan, and was led by the Spirit John 5 Jesus said to them,…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 26 2013,19:25)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 26 2013,10:36)Hi T,If you believe that Jesus came down from heaven, then what was He before He came down from Heaven? A body type figure or a spirit like the Father? I say that Jesus was Spirit like the father and I say that Jesus pre-existed as the Holy Spirit.2beessee,Jesus was conceived in…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 26 2013,18:38)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 26 2013,15:36)Hi T,If you believe that Jesus came down from heaven, then what was He before He came down from Heaven? A body type figure or a spirit like the Father? I say that Jesus was Spirit like the father and I say that Jesus pre-existed as the Holy Spirit.Hi 2Besee, Isn't that like saying…[Read more]

Mike, do some research.Hermas was once considered as canon.Why did they change their mind and 'take it away'?Was it because “Hermas” believed as we do? and it did not agree with them anymore.Funny that they took it away, when it was (apparently) so popular.

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,17:35)2beewere is that scripture that says that THE HOLY SPIRIT WAS” IN “JESUS CHRIST I am just getting the verses now.

Mike, Hermas and a few other writings are fine – I mean, the ones that were once considered cannon, in the early church.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,18:52)And if you believe Justin Martyr, which I do, you'll realize that Jesus IS the “wisdom” spoken of in Proverbs 8, meaning he was created as the first of God's works.You'll also realize that “logos” is also one of the names JESUS is called by.In other words, John, speaking BY the Holy Spirit of God, called…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 26 2013,17:39)Quote (2besee @ Jan. 26 2013,10:36)Hi T,If you believe that Jesus came down from heaven, then what was He before He came down from Heaven? A body type figure or a spirit like the Father? I say that Jesus was Spirit like the father and I say that Jesus pre-existed as the Holy Spirit.2BE SO HE WAS A HEAVENLY…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,17:16)It seems you're flip-flopping a bit, 2B.  You just said that the Holy Spirit is not begotten, and that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God.Have you changed your mind?(Besides, Kerwin's statement allows for TWO only begotten sons of God – which kind of makes the word “only” a mis-used word.)Mike, not…[Read more]