Zion, the Promised Land

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  • #591048
    Wakeup
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    Keras.

    Patients is the spirit of Christ.

    Did you study Jer.25 carefully?

    It is a very important prophecy.

    Dont get put off by those old nations names,because in the end God speaksof all the kings of the nations serving the king of babylon also, for sevety years.

    The king of babylon would be satan; not king Neb. The kings of the nations will serve the king of babylon since israel became a  nation.

    wakeup.

    #617483
    Ed J
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    keras wrote:

    (1)So Ed, where does that leave the time periods as given in Revelation?

    We are told the time that the AC is in control will be 42 months and the ‘woman’ taken to a place of safety for 1260 days. These are 3.5 years periods. Yes, Jesus’ ministry was for 3.5 years, (2)but then to go outside of scripture and say the next 3.5 years completed the last 7, is not right. Jonah was in the whale 3.5 days and Jesus said that would be the sign of His ministry and His death.

    (3)Not many Bible scholars agree with your premise that the 70 weeks are past (4)and the whole end time scenario awaits fulfilment.

    Hi Keras,

    1) Not at all connected to the 70 weeks of Daniel, yet future from that timeline Prophecy.
    2) What? …as I said Rev. does not connect to to the 70 weeks of Daniel.
    3) Great
    4) Most of Rev. is fulfilled.

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    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #617650
    Ed J
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    Journey42,

    49 (7 weeks) + 434 (62 weeks) = 483 (69 weeks)
    (7 + 62 + 1 (1/2-1/2) = 70 weeks of years)

    The command to rebuild Jerusalem was done by Artaxerxes in the year 457 BC.
    483 – 457 = 26AD is when Messiah the prince began his ministry, crucified in
    29-30 AD, then the Apostles finished the seventieth week in 33AD (490 years).

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    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #617666
    Ed J
    Participant

    a day for a year

    “each day for a year” (Ezekiel 4:6)
    “each day for a year” (Num 14:34)

    #617684
    Ed J
    Participant

    “the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.” (Dan 9:25)

    “For the builders, every one had his sword girded by his side, and so builded.” (Neh 4:18)

    #617860
    keras
    Participant

    EdJ said:

    1) Not at all connected to the 70 weeks of Daniel, yet future from that timeline Prophecy.
    2) What? …as I said Rev. does not connect to to the 70 weeks of Daniel.
    3) Great
    4) Most of Rev. is fulfilled.

    Keras reply:

    1/The 69th ‘week’ ended with the Crucifixion. There hasn’t been any 7 year period to fit the 70th since then.

    2/ Why then, does Daniel also give us 1290 & 1335 day and 3.5 year endtime periods?

    3/ Happy to be a loner are you?

    4/Utter rubbish, most prophecy points to the end times, those few that have been fulfilled happened exactly as said: virgin birth, riding on a donkey, etc. Why should the rest not be?

     

    #618367
    Wakeup
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    Daniel 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words  are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
    AT THE TIME OF THE END,IT WILL BE REVEALED.

    Daniel 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly:

    and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    MANY WILL BE PURIFIED;BUT NOT WITH SILVER;BUT BY AFFLICTION. REV.7:9–17.

    THE MULTITUDES COMING OUT OF TRIBULATION,AND GIVEN WHITE ROBES.(PURIFIED).

     
    Daniel 12:11 And from the time  the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(3/HALF YEARS).

    THE FALSE PROPHET WILL ONLY HAVE POWER FOR 3/HALF YEARS.

     FROM THE DAILY SACRIFICE WILL BE TAKEN AWAY, TO THE NEW TEMPLE SET UP WILL BE 3/HALF YEARS.
     THIS IS WHEN THE FALSE PROPHET WILL BE IN POWER. (THE NEW TEMPLE IS THE ABOM.OF DESOLATION).
    Daniel 12:12 Blessed is  he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    BLESSED IS HE THAT KEEPS HIS FAITH TO THE 1335TH DAY, THAT IS 45 DAYS AFTER THE 1290DAYS, WHICH IS
    ONE AND A HALF MONTH.  THE COIMNG WILL BE AT THE 1335TH DAY.
    Daniel 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end  for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

    DANIEL’S LOT WILL BE IN PARADISE WITH ALL HIS BRETHREN.

    HE WILL THEN BE GIVEN ALL THE INFO.

    #629737
    Ed J
    Participant
    keras wrote:

    The 69th ‘week’ ended with the Crucifixion. There hasn’t been any 7 year period to fit the 70th since then.

    Hi Keras,

    What say you of this:

    “and in the midst of the week HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease” (Dan 9:27)

    Did Jesus death not end the practice of animal sacrifices to cease?
    Do you not agree that “HE” is messiah the prince here in Dan 9:27?

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #629742
    Ed J
    Participant
    keras wrote:

    Why then, does Daniel also give us 1290 & 1335 day and 3.5 year endtime periods?

    Hi Keras,

    To help us to identify what “the abomination of desolation” is.

    …………[b]time, times and an half[/b]

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    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #630539
    keras
    Participant

    EdJ, The “prince” referred to in Daniel 9:27, is undoubtedly the Anti-Christ. Not Jesus, the ‘anointed Prince’, as mentioned in verse 26.

    The sacrifices did not cease until 70 CE and they will recommence when the third Temple is built, as per Ezekiel 46:15

    And Ellis Skolfield’s theory of time, times and half a time = 2500 years is very tenuous. His calculation of 533 + 1967 =2500 fails to take account of no year zero. The calc. of 724+1776=2500 fails twice; for the year zero and for Assyrian attack on Israel was in 720, with the final captivity in 718.

    Why, anyway, do you deny that there will be a 7 year period before the Return? The whole end times scenario has a logical sequence to it and is designed to be a time of testing for mankind. Expect it all to start very soon!

    #630599
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Keras,

    Jesus returned in spirit form on Pentecost; no flesh return.

    “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh:
    yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,
    yet now henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

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    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #630796
    keras
    Participant

    I see you prefer not to dispute unscriptural theories.

    Re Jesus: Yes, He is among us as a spiritual being. This is proved by His appearance to Paul and to people even today, esp Muslims who cry out to God.

    But the Day will come, when He will live on earth once again. Maranatha!

    #630941
    Wakeup
    Participant

     

    Yes the 62 weeks have been spend. its gone.

    There is  only  eight weeks left; and you are trying to stretch it to last two thousand years. ??

    All the 70 weeks has been fulfilled 30 yrs after the crucifix.Which is 70ad.(the spiritual desolation has continued to now).

    Case closed. Many are writing books about this, for own gain.

     

    wakeup.

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