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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2012,09:41) Discussing the Trinity Doctrine …still results in heated arguments. And it seems no one ever adjusts their beliefs in the end.
Hi Mike,I'm still working on helping both sides to see clearer. (Link)
“My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew,
as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:” (Deut 32:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 12 2012,04:18) My family is Church of Christ and they believe you must be baptized in their church
to be saved because it is as important as the blood of Christ and confession of faith.
Hi Rich,linjunus is a staunch member of the “C0C” and has started
a thread to attempt to prove they are the cats meow.
Perhaps since you have a background with them,
you would be interested in joining in? (Link)You may not want to start at the beginning,
because it has become a long thread already.
The “Link” I gave you is a GOOD starting point.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 13 2012,20:52) mikeboll64, Quote Who are “UPC's”? I would like to be baptized into the name of Jesus – like the disciples all baptized. They are the United Pentecostal Church. They believe that if you are not baptized by them saying the words, “I baptize you in the name of Jesus” you did not do it right and thus your salvation is not valid.
They disregard what Jesus said about baptizing in the name of the Father, son, and the Holy Spirit.
This is because in the book of Acts it was stated they baptized them in the “name of the Lord or Jesus”.
The women wear no makeup with long dresses while their hair is always long and in a bun. Very nice people. I know a lot of them and have done some work for them.
Hi Rich,“The Son's” name is: “Jesus”
“The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH”
“The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word”Baptizing in Jesus name means exactly the same, and here's how
“YÄ is salvation” ([יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע])Jesus’ authentic name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה] in that YÄ
is the first part of Jesus’ Hebrew name. GOD’s name is not vocalized in the English translation
of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness and direct authentic connection
to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew means: “YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע],
which is: the salvation of “GOD the Father”.Jesus name [יהשוע] therefore authentically establishes YHVH or JEHOVAH as the Highest Name.
Conclusion:
“The Son's” name is: “YÄ is salvation”
The HolySpirit's” name is: “salvation”
And “The Father's” Name is: “YÄ”God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd j
Quote “The Son's” name is: “Jesus”
“The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH”
“The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word”
Baptizing in Jesus name means exactly the same, and here's howThat is something like what they believe, at least the statement that baptizing in the name of Jesus and or the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost is the same thing.
The part that they don't believe is that if your are baptized in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost, (or the Holy Spirit) you are not saved, it has to be in the name of Jesus ONLY.
About the names in you're quote above is something I don't agree with anyway.
I believe Jesus is the Word not the Holy Spirit.Not to get into this, but Jesus was here on earth with His disciples when He told them that the Father would send the Holy Spirit after His resurrection as a comforter. That would not be right when God said His Word became flesh, Jesus whom He sent into the world.
Just a side note to your quote.
Anyway, I don't believe anything changed what Jesus said to the disciples in Mat_28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
If we can change this, then we are free to change anything we want to suite our beliefs.
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 16 2012,04:54) Ed j Quote “The Son's” name is: “Jesus”
“The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH”
“The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word”Baptizing in Jesus name means exactly the same, and here's how
“The Son's” name is: “YÄ is salvation”
The HolySpirit's” name is: “salvation”
And “The Father's” Name is: “YÄ”That is something like what they believe, at least the statement that baptizing in the name of Jesus and or the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost is the same thing.
Hi Rich,They who; the “C0C” church?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgthis gut limjunus,
I have read some of the posts and it's hard to determine if he is in the COC or not. COC should be the Church of Christ that believes they are the only church, and you must be baptized by water in their church and they use no musical instruments in their worship.They believe you baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit when baptizing in water. One is not saved until he or she is baptized in water. This is why they take you immediately after coming forward and confession Jesus or if decision is made at home, they will take you straight to the church to be baptized as were my Mother and Grandmother who made the decision at home.
The UPC is the Untied Pentecostal Church that believes in the name of Jesus only. They believe it is the same thing, (baptizing in the name of the Father, Son,and the Holy Spirit or in the name of Jesus) but only valid if said “in the name of Jesus”
Hi Rich, it's time for you to learn doctrine.
As the penal institution is for criminals that cannot behave themselves, so are
Religious institutions a place to house wild birds; and in case you think I'm joking:The Harlot (See Rev.17:1-3, 18:4)
Hosea 2:5 For their mother hath played the harlot: she that conceived them hath done shamefully: for she said,
I will go after my lovers, that give me my bread and my water, my wool and my flax, mine oil and my drink.Prov 7:18-23 Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
For the goodman (Jesus) is not at home, he is gone a long journey (into Heaven): He hath taken
a bag of money with him, and (Jesus) will come home at the day appointed (to Rapture you out).With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him. And he goeth
after [the whore] straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.Prob.6:5 Deliver thyself as a roe from the hand of the hunter, and as a bird from the hand of the fowler.
Psalms 124:7-125:1 Our soul is escaped as a bird out of the snare of the fowlers:
the snare is broken, and we are escaped. Our help is in the name of the LORD,
who made heaven and earth. They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount
Zion (God's HolyCity), which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, for her sins have reached unto heaven
Your brother in Christ,
“Jesus is Lord”(151) <– Fourth post on this link
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 16 2012,05:40) this gut limjunus,
I have read some of the posts and it's hard to determine if he is in the COC or not. COC should be the Church of Christ that believes they are the only church, and you must be baptized by water in their church and they use no musical instruments in their worship.They believe you baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit when baptizing in water. One is not saved until he or she is baptized in water. This is why they take you immediately after coming forward and confession Jesus or if decision is made at home, they will take you straight to the church to be baptized as were my Mother and Grandmother who made the decision at home.
The UPC is the Untied Pentecostal Church that believes in the name of Jesus only. They believe it is the same thing, (baptizing in the name of the Father, Son,and the Holy Spirit or in the name of Jesus) but only valid if said “in the name of Jesus”
Hi Rich,Yes, I know I've heard of them before; and I've been
studying up on them evr since limjunus has arrived.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,22:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2012,09:41) Discussing the Trinity Doctrine …still results in heated arguments. And it seems no one ever adjusts their beliefs in the end.
Hi Mike,I'm still working on helping both sides to see clearer. (Link)
“My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew,
as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:” (Deut 32:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.What rain Ed,like acid tain? What dew; like chem trail?
wakeup.
Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 16 2012,05:40) this gut limjunus,
I have read some of the posts and it's hard to determine if he is in the COC or not. COC should be the Church of Christ that believes they are the only church, and you must be baptized by water in their church and they use no musical instruments in their worship.They believe you baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit when baptizing in water. One is not saved until he or she is baptized in water. This is why they take you immediately after coming forward and confession Jesus or if decision is made at home, they will take you straight to the church to be baptized as were my Mother and Grandmother who made the decision at home.
The UPC is the Untied Pentecostal Church that believes in the name of Jesus only. They believe it is the same thing, (baptizing in the name of the Father, Son,and the Holy Spirit or in the name of Jesus) but only valid if said “in the name of Jesus”
Richter.I know that that you know,the thief on Christ right hand was not babtised, and Christ promised him paradise.
Jesus was babtised with water ,just a symbol of the Holy spirit,but all saw the Holy spirit went in him and stayed.Not so with us; we have to seek first; and then you will find
unexpectedly the holy spirit comes and visits,but it wont stay, untill you truly follow the straigt and narrow.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 16 2012,23:49) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 15 2012,22:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2012,09:41) Discussing the Trinity Doctrine …still results in heated arguments. And it seems no one ever adjusts their beliefs in the end.
Hi Mike,I'm still working on helping both sides to see clearer. (Link)
“My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew,
as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass:” (Deut 32:2)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edj.What rain Ed,like acid tain? What dew; like chem trail?
wakeup.
People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (See 1Cor.2:12-16)Hi Wakeup,
The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
[“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.“The Passover“=148
[74+74=148]
Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148“Pentecost“=117
“Former Rain”=117
(Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
+54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]
“The Latter Rain”=151
“Feast of Booths“=151
(Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
“Jesus is Lord”=151,
because “HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
Click Here for moreWitnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgI need more of you on this forum to put up you alliance or affiliation so we can know your basics and core beliefs.
Richtuner,
I'm not trying to sound “super religious” but my affiliation is with Jesus* and I will align with any and all who have placed their trust in Him, no matter what denomination they attend or even none at all. Truth is absolute, but there are many aspects that make up this truth, some I've got right, other I've probably missed the mark despite trying my hardest to get it right, and others, I'm still exploring. Some have more truths, others have truths in different areas, while some have little more than the essential truth. Many seem to forget Romans 14:4 Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand.*Yes I know 1 Corinthians 1:12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas ”; still another, “I follow Christ.”
WmQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 24 2012,05:29) I need more of you on this forum to put up you alliance or affiliation so we can know your basics and core beliefs.
Magician. 🙂Hi David,
I have never been a member of any 'Religious Organization'.
Why don't you tell Rich yours, since he is asking everyone?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJust so everyone knows, I do this because as a Baptist I know what you believe, (for the most part) and say as a Pentecost I know, etc.
This will help when there is a post say about healing and you are a Baptist who believes in healing,but not for all, while the Pentecosts believe that all should be healed, (even though most don't).
If you are a Muslim, then you don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah which would make it hard to share scriptures about His life and teachings concerning salvation etc.Quote (Richtuner @ Nov. 24 2012,03:12) Just so everyone knows, I do this because as a Baptist I know what you believe, (for the most part) and say as a Pentecost I know, etc.
This will help when there is a post say about healing and you are a Baptist who believes in healing,but not for all, while the Pentecosts believe that all should be healed, (even though most don't).
If you are a Muslim, then you don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah which would make it hard to share scriptures about His life and teachings concerning salvation etc.
the placedo efectQuote (Richtuner @ Nov. 24 2012,08:12) Just so everyone knows, I do this because as a Baptist I know what you believe, (for the most part) and say as a Pentecost I know, etc.
This will help when there is a post say about healing and you are a Baptist who believes in healing,but not for all, while the Pentecosts believe that all should be healed, (even though most don't).
If you are a Muslim, then you don't believe in Jesus as the Messiah which would make it hard to share scriptures about His life and teachings concerning salvation etc.
I do not believe n faith healing. See thread and video “faith healing”Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 16 2012,02:12) “The Son's” name is: “Jesus”
“The Father's” name is: “JEHOVAH”
“The HolySpirit's” name is: “The Word”
And yet the Sword of that Spirit is the Word of God.So is the Spirit the Word or the sword of that Spirit the Word.
I guess you could say both, but I would wonder why mention the sword at all then. I guess you don't wonder that or do you?
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