You don't believe in hell?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2010,22:43)

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,20:38) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 16 2010,14:11) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,13:59) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,21:39) STU….. Homosexuality is a personal and private proclivity that has no genetic links and no means to procreate….God is quite clear in his expression of displeasure with respect to this lifestyle and its propagation…We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions and behavior for better or for worse… You have not demonstrated that there is no genetic link, but it is of no consequence to me either way.  If two men, or two women wish to demonstrate their love for one another physically, and there is a god that says such devotion is evil, then I think it is an immoral god.  Do you think I have been clear enough about my disapproval of this monstrous Imaginary Being? I will not require you to worship me instead. Stuart STU Even even clearly support Father and son relationships or Grandmother and GrandChild as lond as the Grandchild is consenting age they can have intercourse and STU fully supports their Human rights after all STU doesn't just believe in God being Imaginary he also believes that such boundaries are also imaginary You said kiss.  I agreed to kiss. Now you are lying about what I wrote. You are dishonest. Stuart So you don't believe that a Father and son of consenting adult age have the right to have intercourse? If not, why not? Is it immoral?

I don't think it is, particularly. Do you think it likely to be very common?

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 17 2010,00:08)

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,13:59) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,21:39) STU….. Homosexuality is a personal and private proclivity that has no genetic links and no means to procreate….God is quite clear in his expression of displeasure with respect to this lifestyle and its propagation…We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions and behavior for better or for worse… You have not demonstrated that there is no genetic link, but it is of no consequence to me either way.  If two men, or two women wish to demonstrate their love for one another physically, and there is a god that says such devotion is evil, then I think it is an immoral god.  Do you think I have been clear enough about my disapproval of this monstrous Imaginary Being? I will not require you to worship me instead. Stuart Greetings Stu…. Love between a man and a woman fosters procreation and a preservation of the speci….What does love between a man and another man produce….Nothing…Let us not confuse Love with Lust….Because the heart of the man is hopelessly wicked he pursues every form of pervercity in the search of pleasure…There is nothing wrong with love and affection one towards another be it man or women,it is the denegrading of the sex act of lovemaking which is for the pleasure of a man and a women that seperates lovemaking  from sodomy…

So you approve of a heterosexual couple expressing physically the love they feel for one another but not a homosexual couple doing the same thing, on the basis that the homosexual couple cannot produce children? Isn't this a very conservative and naive view of human sexuality?

I think the perverse point of view is the one that says some consenting adults should not be allowed to do certain things in the privacy of their own bedrooms. How is that a denigration of themselves, or of anyone else? Do you think that because you find homosexuality in some way repellent yourself that everyone else should find it so too?

I take pride in supporting the rights of friends who are gay: I don't understand the attractions they have myself by I don't see why anyone should object to their relationships. If christians have a problem with it then that is their problem. I can see nothing rational or loving about the homophobia attitude.

Stuart

[theodorej]

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 17 2010,13:29)

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 17 2010,00:08) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,13:59) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,21:39) STU….. Homosexuality is a personal and private proclivity that has no genetic links and no means to procreate….God is quite clear in his expression of displeasure with respect to this lifestyle and its propagation…We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions and behavior for better or for worse… You have not demonstrated that there is no genetic link, but it is of no consequence to me either way.  If two men, or two women wish to demonstrate their love for one another physically, and there is a god that says such devotion is evil, then I think it is an immoral god.  Do you think I have been clear enough about my disapproval of this monstrous Imaginary Being? I will not require you to worship me instead. Stuart Greetings Stu…. Love between a man and a woman fosters procreation and a preservation of the speci….What does love between a man and another man produce….Nothing…Let us not confuse Love with Lust….Because the heart of the man is hopelessly wicked he pursues every form of pervercity in the search of pleasure…There is nothing wrong with love and affection one towards another be it man or women,it is the denegrading of the sex act of lovemaking which is for the pleasure of a man and a women that seperates lovemaking  from sodomy… So you approve of a heterosexual couple expressing physically the love they feel for one another but not a homosexual couple doing the same thing, on the basis that the homosexual couple cannot produce children?   Isn't this a very conservative and naive view of human sexuality? I think the perverse point of view is the one that says some consenting adults should not be allowed to do certain things in the privacy of their own bedrooms.  How is that a denigration of themselves, or of anyone else?  Do you think that because you find homosexuality in some way repellent yourself that everyone else should find it so too?   I take pride in supporting the rights of friends who are gay: I don't understand the attractions they have myself by I don't see why anyone should object to their relationships.  If christians have a problem with it then that is their problem.  I can see nothing rational or loving about the homophobia attitude. Stuart

Stu… It is not my place to make a judgement on the actions of anyone in the privacy of there home or the privacy of their own body….I have a problem when the procreation of a lifestyle is dependent on the indoctrination of a younger generation without a fair and equitable opportunity to bring to fore the risks involved with respect to health and how the lifestle conforms to laws of nature…Two consenting adults,knowing full well the health consequences of their proclivities is none of my business nor any religion….It is their own personal transgression to the laws of nature…

[Stu]

Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 19 2010,23:27)

Quote (Stu @ Nov. 17 2010,13:29) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 17 2010,00:08) Quote (Stu @ Nov. 16 2010,13:59) Quote (theodorej @ Nov. 15 2010,21:39) STU….. Homosexuality is a personal and private proclivity that has no genetic links and no means to procreate….God is quite clear in his expression of displeasure with respect to this lifestyle and its propagation…We all have to live with the consequences of our decisions and behavior for better or for worse… You have not demonstrated that there is no genetic link, but it is of no consequence to me either way.  If two men, or two women wish to demonstrate their love for one another physically, and there is a god that says such devotion is evil, then I think it is an immoral god.  Do you think I have been clear enough about my disapproval of this monstrous Imaginary Being? I will not require you to worship me instead. Stuart Greetings Stu…. Love between a man and a woman fosters procreation and a preservation of the speci….What does love between a man and another man produce….Nothing…Let us not confuse Love with Lust….Because the heart of the man is hopelessly wicked he pursues every form of pervercity in the search of pleasure…There is nothing wrong with love and affection one towards another be it man or women,it is the denegrading of the sex act of lovemaking which is for the pleasure of a man and a women that seperates lovemaking  from sodomy… So you approve of a heterosexual couple expressing physically the love they feel for one another but not a homosexual couple doing the same thing, on the basis that the homosexual couple cannot produce children?   Isn't this a very conservative and naive view of human sexuality? I think the perverse point of view is the one that says some consenting adults should not be allowed to do certain things in the privacy of their own bedrooms.  How is that a denigration of themselves, or of anyone else?  Do you think that because you find homosexuality in some way repellent yourself that everyone else should find it so too?   I take pride in supporting the rights of friends who are gay: I don't understand the attractions they have myself by I don't see why anyone should object to their relationships.  If christians have a problem with it then that is their problem.  I can see nothing rational or loving about the homophobia attitude. Stuart Stu… It is not my place to make a judgement on the actions of anyone in the privacy of there home or the privacy of their own body….I have a problem when the procreation of a lifestyle is dependent on the indoctrination of a younger generation without a fair and equitable opportunity to bring to fore the risks involved with respect to health and how the lifestle conforms to laws of nature…Two consenting adults,knowing full well the health consequences of their proclivities is none of my business nor any religion….It is their own personal transgression to the laws of nature…

What is the “law of nature”? Is it the things we see happening in the natural world? If it is, then we have no examples of species that reproduce through copulation that do not also exhibit homosexual behaviour.

What indoctrination are you talking about? Why do you think there is a massively high suicide rate amongst young gay people? Do you think they would choose homosexuality if it was a matter of choice?

Stuart

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