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- September 19, 2010 at 8:13 am#216777ProclaimerParticipantSeptember 25, 2010 at 2:29 am#217442StuParticipant
You'd have to have a particular head for that job.
After the whole tower of babel fiasco it's amazing he can still speak English back on the ground.
I suppose with the space programmes we have run the Judeo-christian god has had to revise his policy on punishing high climbing.
Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 3:22 am#217461Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,13:29) You'd have to have a particular head for that job. After the whole tower of babel fiasco it's amazing he can still speak English back on the ground.
I suppose with the space programmes we have run the Judeo-christian god has had to revise his policy on punishing high climbing.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,It is not the height that's ‘the problem’, but ‘the tude’.
The attitude that makes you think that you know
as much as God or that you can judge him.Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 25, 2010 at 3:37 am#217468StuParticipantThat's a nonsense platitude though Ed, isn't it, unless you can quantify how much your god actually knows. It knows less about some aspects of engineering than a first-year engineering student, and less about plumbing than a plumbing apprentice, if the human body can be used as evidence.
Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 3:46 am#217475Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,14:37) That's a nonsense platitude though Ed, isn't it, unless you can quantify how much your god actually knows. It knows less about some aspects of engineering than a first-year engineering student, and less about plumbing than a plumbing apprentice, if the human body can be used as evidence. Stuart
Hi Stuart,So you don't think your body is well engineered?
September 25, 2010 at 3:57 am#217477StuParticipantNo. If my body had been engineered then the engineer is incompetent. My urethra goes straight through my prostate gland that is more than likely at some point to swell and cut off the flow. I have been lucky not to suffer much in the way of back problems, but the human back would not be a piece of engineering of which to be proud. I have (or at least I might have) a set of plantaris muscles that are of so little value that 9% of us don't even have one, and the entrance to my trachea is much lower than in other species, which does allow me to speak, but puts me at a far greater risk of choking.
Of course the real explanation for these examples of poor engineering is that natural selection recycles old things and adapts them to new functions, getting stuck because it has to make do, it can never go back to the drawing board. Actually there is no drawing board!
Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 4:02 am#217478Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,14:57) Of course the real explanation for these examples of poor engineering is that natural selection recycles old things and adapts them to new functions, getting stuck because it has to make do, it can never go back to the drawing board. Actually there is no drawing board! Stuart
Hi Stuart,That's a nonsense platitude.
September 25, 2010 at 5:54 am#217485StuParticipantSorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you?
Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 6:32 am#217489ProclaimerParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,14:57) Of course the real explanation for these examples of poor engineering is that natural selection recycles old things and adapts them to new functions, getting stuck because it has to make do, it can never go back to the drawing board.
Sorry Stu. Mother nature has the IQ of zero. It can't figure out anything. All that happens is dictated by laws and you ignore any law giver.September 25, 2010 at 6:51 am#217491Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 25, 2010 at 8:48 am#217501StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,17:51) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Can you afford the tuition?Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 8:50 am#217503StuParticipantQuote (t8 @ Sep. 25 2010,17:32) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,14:57) Of course the real explanation for these examples of poor engineering is that natural selection recycles old things and adapts them to new functions, getting stuck because it has to make do, it can never go back to the drawing board.
Sorry Stu. Mother nature has the IQ of zero. It can't figure out anything. All that happens is dictated by laws and you ignore any law giver.
Indeed there is no IQ required for the complete explanation of the emergence of the diversity of life. Why are you suggesting there is?Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 9:07 am#217511Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,17:51) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Can you afford the tuition?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Just as I figured, there is none!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 25, 2010 at 9:16 am#217519StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,20:07) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,17:51) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Can you afford the tuition?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Just as I figured, there is none!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You can believe what you like, Ed. Being ignorant of natural history is not something I think you should shout about too loudly though.Carry on with your fingers in your ears shouting “nya nya I can't hear you” if you want. I'll carry on claiming I am more spiritual because I have taken into account the evidence for my own origins in determining my place in the cosmos.
Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 9:21 am#217524Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:16) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,20:07) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,17:51) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Can you afford the tuition?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Just as I figured, there is none!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You can believe what you like, Ed. Being ignorant of natural history is not something I think you should shout about too loudly though.Carry on with your fingers in your ears shouting “nya nya I can't hear you” if you want. I'll carry on claiming I am more spiritual because I have taken into account the evidence for my own origins in determining my place in the cosmos.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Like the assertion that your father is pond scum.
No wonder you are so very confused my brother!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 25, 2010 at 9:26 am#217526StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,20:21) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:16) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,20:07) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,19:48) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,17:51) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,16:54) Sorry Ed, it's a scientific theory supported by evidence. You can assert that you think it is nonsense but you will have to disprove it to have any credibility. Can you? Stuart
Hi Stuart,Produce this evidence you speak of?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Can you afford the tuition?Stuart
Hi Stuart,Just as I figured, there is none!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You can believe what you like, Ed. Being ignorant of natural history is not something I think you should shout about too loudly though.Carry on with your fingers in your ears shouting “nya nya I can't hear you” if you want. I'll carry on claiming I am more spiritual because I have taken into account the evidence for my own origins in determining my place in the cosmos.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,Like the assertion that your father is pond scum.
No wonder you are so very confused my brother!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
My father is a human, like me. My very distant ancestors, and yours, were single-celled animals that were all the life there was for about 3 billion years. That is simply a fact of history, something that is only denied by those who have already decided that their reality is contained in a book written by ancient and ignorant people.Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 9:36 am#217529Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:26) My very distant ancestors, and yours, were single-celled animals that were all the life there was for about 3 billion years.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,That's a lie.
Matt. 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no
truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.Jer.2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have
turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.A stone refers to minerals, which you believe is your origin.
Therefore you are just choosing to remain ignorant of what the evidence says about how you came to be.
September 25, 2010 at 9:50 am#217532StuParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Sep. 25 2010,20:36) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:26) My very distant ancestors, and yours, were single-celled animals that were all the life there was for about 3 billion years.
Stuart
Hi Stuart,That's a lie.
Matt. 8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no
truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.Jer.2:27 Saying to a stock, Thou art my father; and to a stone, Thou hast brought me forth: for they have
turned their back unto me, and not their face: but in the time of their trouble they will say, Arise, and save us.A stone refers to minerals, which you believe is your origin.
Therefore you are just choosing to remain ignorant of what the evidence says about how you came to be.
You can believe what you like Ed. From my point of view there is no malevolent deity waiting to trip you up and punish you if you fail to appreciate the nature of reality. It is just a pity you are missing out. Not all christians are as confident in shouting their lack of understanding as you are Ed. So what that evolution is a fact? Does your faith not have the strength to stand consideration of it?Stuart
September 25, 2010 at 10:12 am#217534Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:50) From my point of view there is no malevolent deity waiting to trip you up… Stuart
Hi Stuart,If you believe this part, then you are making progress.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgSeptember 25, 2010 at 10:13 am#217535Ed JParticipantQuote (Stu @ Sep. 25 2010,20:50) Does your faith not have the strength to stand consideration of it? Stuart
Hi Stuart,What does this mean?
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