Wolves among the flock

[kejonn]

Episte,

I guess teaching that the trinity is false would be a heresy according to this definition

An opinion or a doctrine at variance with established religious beliefs, especially dissension from or denial of Roman Catholic dogma by a professed believer or baptized church member.

Glad to know I'm a heretic. I'd much rather believe scripture than man-made Roman Catholic dogma…at least I won't be worshiping Mary and saints, just my God.

[Proclaimer]

Quote (epistemaniac @ Aug. 25 2007,06:15)

Quote (heiscomingintheclouds @ Oct. 07 2006,04:30) I ask all to not hold Nick accountable. It makes it's presense known when discovered and we must not blame the man. I ask that all pray for deliverance of this man. The hatred does not come from the man, but the forces controlling the man. We must pray for the man that he be delivered. It is not flesh and bone we war against, but principalities in high places. I think “the man” is still responsible for his sins, and nick's many blasphemous statements concerning the nature of God will need to be accounted for and atoned for… either Nick can try and do this himself, or he can can repudiate his false teachings and receive forgiveness….. God does not put sins in hell, he puts the people who committed those sins which have not been atoned for in hell…. but, by all means, we should pray for him… and all those who teach the anti trinitarian heresy, and pray for all those led astray by nick personally, and those who have come to this site and have swallowed the doctrine of demons and fallen away because of the very purpose of this site…. pray that they may come back to the truth before it is too late…. blessings

And epistemaniac's basis for saying such things is the traditions of men and doctrine of devils.

The Trinity doctrine is not of God.

The wolves are not just entering the flock now, they entered many centuries ago. Their damage is written in history and is the inheritance of many denominations today.

God is one.

[IM4Truth]

ehistemaniac Judge not that you may not be judged.
Romans 13:14

Peace and Love Mrs.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Lately a lot of folk have lost faith here.

It's like going to the movies and being shown to our seats. The lights dim and our eyes are getting used to the dark and Towshab sidles up and makes a comment about it.

Suddenly everyone wants to get up from their seats and stagger towards the only bright sign in the distance, the EXIT sign.

I guess that is what sheep are like-so easily panicked.

So quickly they forget the voice of the shepherd and they go running towards the jaws of the waiting wolves-the blasphemers- whose only wish is to devour them.

A little caution and a little patience and all would have become clear.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
We are told false prophets and teachers arise among us.
Their work is to divide and kill the sheep and lambs.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 15 2008,06:42)

Hi, Lately a lot of folk have lost faith here.   It's like going to the movies and being shown to our seats. The lights dim and our eyes are getting used to the dark and Towshab sidles up and makes a comment about it. Suddenly everyone wants to get up from their seats and stagger towards the only bright sign in the distance, the EXIT sign.   I guess that is what sheep are like-so easily panicked. So quickly they forget the voice of the shepherd and they go running towards the jaws of the waiting wolves-the blasphemers- whose only wish is to devour them. A little caution and a little patience and all would have become clear.

I never saw this back in April. Good illustration.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2008,13:49)

Hi, We are told false prophets and teachers arise among us. Their work is to divide and kill the sheep and lambs.

Do these false teachers know that they are false teachers?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
No way.
Religious spirits lead them astray.
Closed to hearing the truth that would set them free they attract followers leading them too into a pit.

Their LIGHT is DARKNESS

Mt6

22The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light.

23But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!

[Not3in1]

hmmm

“Religious spirits” lead them astray?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
Listen to the hardworking and humble man whose work was frustrated by the confident self appointed and self taught false apostles who distorted the gospel to their own ideas.

Instead of being transformed by Christ within they transformed themselves and finished up superb servants of Satan.

2Cor11
2For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

3But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

4For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

5For I suppose I was not a whit behind the very chiefest apostles.

6But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been throughly made manifest among you in all things.

7Have I committed an offence in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

8I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you service.

9And when I was present with you, and wanted, I was chargeable to no man: for that which was lacking to me the brethren which came from Macedonia supplied: and in all things I have kept myself from being burdensome unto you, and so will I keep myself.

10As the truth of Christ is in me, no man shall stop me of this boasting in the regions of Achaia.

11Wherefore? because I love you not? God knoweth.

12But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.

13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.

14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

[Not3in1]

But Satan knows what he is doing when he is a false teacher.

Are you saying other's do not know that they are false teacher's, that they indeed have been led astray to do this terrible thing not knowing?

I guess that could happen to any one of us then?

[NickHassan]

Hi not3,
They do not know as insight lacks.
They should be constantly proving what they teach by what is written.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 17 2008,16:37)

Hi not3, They do not know as insight lacks. They should be constantly proving what they teach by what is written.

S c a r y!

[gollamudi]

Quote (Not3in1 @ June 17 2008,16:30)

But Satan knows what he is doing when he is a false teacher. Are you saying other's do not know that they are false teacher's, that they indeed have been led astray to do this terrible thing not knowing? I guess that could happen to any one of us then?

Hi Mandy,
Yes you are right it can be applied to anyone. But I don't know about whom Nick is cautioning us.
Love to you
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi GM,
We all need to watch our steps.

1Tim1
3As I besought thee to abide still at Ephesus, when I went into Macedonia, that thou mightest charge some that they teach no other doctrine,

4Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.

5Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

6From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;

7Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

8But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;

[theodorej]

Greetings Nick…..I could not agree with you more with respect to all of us being mindfull of what we espouse….Having said that,I would think that most error is a result of misinterpretation and because this forum is here not only for testomony but for correction as well,meaningfull dialog along with a sincere heart seeking truth should enable one to tell the sheep from the wolves….

[gollamudi]

Hi Theodorej
That's better way to release the tensions.
Thanks
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Sheeps clothing to enable mingling with the vulnerable and to steal their life.

[theodorej]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 18 2008,06:52)

Hi, Matthew 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.   Sheeps clothing to enable mingling with the vulnerable and to steal their life.

Greetings Nick….Would you consider those who bare their faith in a form that they believe to be true,however,draws a conflicting opinion..wolves in sheeps clothing or someone who is seeking confirmation of scripture….It is my feeling that the wolves are those with conviction and an unyielding persona that holds onto a literal interpretation of scripture with very little concern for the spirit of a lesson and the context thereof..

[NickHassan]

Hi TJ,
Unteachable, unreachable, unrepentant and only interested in gaining a personal following?

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