Will the earth and the heavens melt

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup.

w

He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;

Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;
Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began.

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’

Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

if you believe those scriptures as to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,12:24)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup. w He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him; Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. if you believe those scriptures as  to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level

Terra.

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He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ***The mighty God,***

***The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace***.

THE EVERLASTING FATHER,THE PRINCE OF PEACE.
***AND TERRA SAYS HE IS CREATED***.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:05)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,12:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup. w He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him; Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. if you believe those scriptures as  to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level Terra. Quote He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;  Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ***The mighty God,*** ***The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace***. THE EVERLASTING FATHER,THE PRINCE OF PEACE.      ***AND TERRA SAYS HE IS CREATED***. wakeup.

w

when did his government start and when did his fatherhood start in actions ,no
t in plan

and so you believe that the scriptures I give you are all void because of the one you showed think and think deep

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,13:27)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,12:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup. w He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him; Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. if you believe those scriptures as  to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level Terra. Quote He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;  Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ***The mighty God,*** ***The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace***. THE EVERLASTING FATHER,THE PRINCE OF PEACE.      ***AND TERRA SAYS HE IS CREATED***. wakeup. w when did his govern ment start and when did his fatherhood start in actions ,not in plan and so you believe that the scriptures I give you are all void because of the one you showed think and think deep

Terra.

You have just contradicted the scriptures.
And now start wandering for cover.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,09:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,13:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,12:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup. w He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him; Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. if you believe those scriptures as  to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level Terra. Quote He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;  Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ***The mighty God,*** ***The everlasting Father, T he Prince of Peace***. THE EVERLASTING FATHER,THE PRINCE OF PEACE.      ***AND TERRA SAYS HE IS CREATED***. wakeup. w when did his government start and when did his fatherhood start in actions ,not in plan and so you believe that the scriptures I give you are all void because of the one you showed think and think deep Terra. You have just contradicted the scriptures. And now start wandering for cover. wakeup.

W

No contradiction ,only you have a lack of understanding that's all,

Something you can fix with a little good will

[Wakeup]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,14:33)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,09:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,13:27) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,08:05) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,12:24) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:39) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,17:12) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 28 2013,12:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 28 2013,03:18) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 27 2013,09:35) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 27 2013,14:03) w Quote *IF* HE IS THE FIRST BORN IN HEAVEN, THEN WHO CREATED HIM?? why you ask do you not believe scriptures even though you say ; BUT ONLY IF YOU DEPEND ON THE SCRIPTURES,AND BELIEVE IN THE SCRIPTURES.; but you put Paul words in doubt,??? My question to Terra is: If the Word was created, or born in heaven; Then what paul is saying would be contradictory. For he said that *all* is created by the Word. Things seen and unseen.  John said: Without him was nothing made that was made. This is my question to Terra,not my statement to Terra. wakeup. w Isaia; 1;20 ……./For the mouth of the LORD has spoken. GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM ,SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS ,BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS :THE WORD OF GOD ” CREATED IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION,AND IT IS HIM THAT CAME DOWN TO EARTH TO SAVE MEN FROM HIS SINS,THIS IS WHAT PAUL EXPLAIN IN HIS LETTER TO THE COLOSIANS . Col 1:13 For he has rescued us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the kingdom of the Son he loves, Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Col 1:20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross. IF YOU WANT TO BELIEVE IT THOSE SCRIPTURES TELLS WHAT WAS IN THE BEGINNING AND ALSO WHY CHRIST IS THE END , Rev 19:13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.” Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. THE VERDICT REMAINS THE SAME Terra. Quote GOD DID NOT CREATED HIS WORDS ,BECAUSE HE HAD “A MOUTH” TO SPEAK THEM , **SO AT NO TIME WOULD HE NEED TO CREATE WORDS **, BUT AS SCRIPTURES SAYS : THE WORD OF GOD ” **CREATED **IN THE BEGINNING IS HIS SON THE SPOKESMAN OF CREATION**, You said that the Word Of God in the beginning created his Son the spokesman of creation. So was the Word of God in the beginning his Son? Please answer this question. wakeup. W Yes,the WORD in John 1:1 his Christ the son of God almighty Terra. Was the Word not made flesh first by birth? And named Jesus? Or was He his Son from the beginning? wakeup. w He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him; Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began. Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, Jn 1:30 This is the one I meant when I said, ‘A man who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.’ Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man. if you believe those scriptures as  to be true like I do ,then we should be on the same level Terra. Quote He was his son right from the beginning ,when God created him;  Isaiah 9:6   For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, ***The mighty God,*** ***The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace***. THE EVERLASTING FATHER,THE PRINCE OF PEACE.      ***AND TERRA SAYS HE IS CREATED***. wakeup. w when did his government start and when did his fatherhood start in actions ,not in plan and so you believe that the scriptures I give you are all void because of the one you showed think and think deep Terra. You have just contradicted the scriptures. And now start wandering for cover. wakeup. W No contradiction ,only you have a lack of understanding that's all, Something you can fix with a little good will

The word **created** can not be
applied to **everlasting**.

No matter what you are trying to say.
You are in contradiction to the truth.
You have no truth.
Your truth is in your imagination only.

wakeup.

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What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30)

W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean

Terra.

Everlasting means no beginning.
God and His Word is from everlasting,
NO BEGINNING.

In the beginning was the Word:
The word *beginning* is only applied by John,
when the Word was used to *begin* to create.
God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word
With all the wisdom to create.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup.

w

ev·er·last·ing (vr-lstng)
adj.
1. Lasting forever; eternal.
2.
a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time.
b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints.
n.
1. Everlasting God. Used with the.

you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE UP AND LIVE ,

BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU,

SO ;BY,BY,BY

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY

Are you having fun old boy?
Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,22:52)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY Are you having fun old boy? Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity. wakeup.

yeah;STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING ,

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Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,04:47)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,22:52) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY Are you having fun old boy? Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity. wakeup. yeah;STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING ,

Terra.

If I disagree with something;
I always bring out scriptures,
as evidence.

wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 31 2013,16:12)

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,04:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,22:52) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY Are you having fun old boy? Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity. wakeup. yeah;STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING ,       Terra. If I disagree with something; I always bring out scriptures, as evidence. wakeup.

w

Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity,
from the beginning, before the world began

this means that there is a beginning ;and then for eternity ,

eternity does not mean “ALWAYS WAS THERE ” LIKE GOD ,WE KNOW ALL THING HAVE A BEGINNING EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY ,SO HIS SON WAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF CREATION ,THE SON WAS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION AND WILL LAST FOR ETERNITY,

Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works,
before his deeds of old;

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

I KNOW YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,04:21)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 31 2013,16:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,04:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,22:52) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY Are you having fun old boy? Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity. wakeup. yeah;STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING ,       Terra. If I disagree with something; I always bring out scriptures, as evidence. wakeup. w Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began this means that there is a beginning ;and then for eternity , eternity does not mean “ALWAYS WAS THERE ” LIKE GOD ,WE KNOW ALL THING HAVE A BEGINNING EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY ,SO HIS SON WAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF CREATION ,THE SON WAS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION AND WILL LAST FOR ETERNITY, Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, I KNOW YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

T.

What you are saying is:
God was there ,but without His Mouth and Word.

wakeup.

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W

See now you start to see how ridicule it becomes thinking that John 1:1

Talks about God's. Spoken words instead of the newly created son the spokesman to all creation called “the WORD”,

Colossians :1:15-21
Proverbs 8:22-31

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Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 07 2013,04:21)

Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 31 2013,16:12) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,04:47) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 30 2013,22:52) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 31 2013,02:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Oct. 29 2013,14:34) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 29 2013,16:30) W What is the word “everlasting ” means And what does it no mean Terra. Everlasting means no beginning. God and His Word is from everlasting, NO BEGINNING. In the beginning was the Word: The word *beginning* is only applied by John, when the Word was used to *begin* to create. God begins to speak out his Word. A living Word With all the wisdom to create. wakeup. w ev·er·last·ing  (vr-lstng) adj. 1. Lasting forever; eternal. 2. a. Continuing indefinitely or for a long period of time. b. Persisting too long; tedious: everlasting complaints. n. 1. Everlasting God. Used with the. you did not take the time to check the word ,but this I know you are an argumental mind ,not a truth seeker ,this is why you are always give ,personal comment and opinions ,it looks like you are spiritually dead ,so WAKE  UP AND LIVE , BUT I AM DONE WITH YOU AND YOUR SENSE LESS CONVERSATIONS AND ARGUMENTS ABOUT YOU, SO ;BY,BY,BY Are you having fun old boy? Everlasting/lasting forever/perpetual/eternity. wakeup. yeah;STARTING FROM THE BEGINNING ,       Terra. If I disagree with something; I always bring out scriptures, as evidence. wakeup. w Pr 8:23 I was appointed from eternity, from the beginning, before the world began this means that there is a beginning ;and then for eternity , eternity does not mean “ALWAYS WAS THERE ” LIKE GOD ,WE KNOW ALL THING HAVE A BEGINNING EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY ,SO HIS SON WAS FROM THE BEGINNING OF CREATION ,THE SON WAS THE FIRST OF GOD CREATION AND WILL LAST FOR ETERNITY, Pr 8:22 “The LORD brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old; Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, I KNOW YOU WILL NOT UNDERSTAND THIS

Terra.

You need to devide the two periods of time.
1.The time when *NOTHING* was created yet;
only God was.(His word was NOT SPOKEN YET).
Still inside God.
Space was empty and dark. Only God was the light.
—————————————————————

2.The time when God *STARTED* creating.
*In the beginning* God spoke, through his Word;given a
form like Him.(His image).
All things were made through Him,in Him was life,widom,
love;and all that is in God,is in Him.
3.He was made flesh,and was named Jesus.
It is now only the man Jesus was. Which *WAS* the Word.
4.He went back to his Father,in spirit form.
And will come back to earth again AS
*THE WORD OF GOD*.(spirit form/body) (REV.19:12.13).
5.He will destroy BABYLON THE GREAT,and set up His
kingdom on earth.

wakeup.

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